generally, 2 limits, QP and P which is 20 db above QP.  Gotta meet both.  
Unless the P is so infrequent as to call it a Click.  Which I would not to want 
a challenge over.
    On Friday, April 5, 2024 at 03:53:43 PM EDT, Stultz, Mark 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 
Hi Larry,
 
  
 
I agree with you completely…I think the lab didn’t see that peak going over the 
limit line and therefore didn’t QP.  We only noticed now that they have sent 
the report several weeks later.  They’re arguing that there is no need to 
retest.
 
  
 
Thanks,
 
Mark
 
  
 
  
 
From: Larry K. Stillings <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2024 3:46 PM
To: Stultz, Mark <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Radiated Emissions - How many points to QP?
 
  
 
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Mark,
 
  
 
If the peak is above the limit (which most standards allow up to 20 dB), then 
wouldn’t you also need to know the quasi-peak of all the signals above the 
limit so you could compare them to the limit? The limit is in QP not peak.
 
  
 
I guess failing is failing, but you really wouldn’t know by how much.
 
  
 
Is it really that much more work to take a QP, or maybe the automation software 
doesn’t support that? We’re old school and still take the data manually and I 
have the guys always take both (peak and quasi-peak).
 
  
 
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From: Stultz, Mark
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2024 3:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [PSES] Radiated Emissions - How many points to QP?
 
  
 
Hello PSES brain trust,
 
When doing radiated emissions measurements, how many frequencies should be 
quasi-peaked? 
 
CISPR 16-2-3 clause 6.4.9 states: 
 
“Of those disturbances above (L-20dB), where L is the limit level in 
logarithmic units, the disturbance levels and the frequencies of at least the 
six highest disturbances shall be recorded.”
 
  
 
We have always done QP measurements on all peak measurements above the limit, 
even if that is more than six points.
 
I have a lab arguing that they only need to measure the top six, regardless of 
how many peak measurements are above the limit.
 
Any thoughts are appreciated.
 
  
 
Thanks,
 
Mark
 
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