Hi Larry, I agree with you completely...I think the lab didn't see that peak going over the limit line and therefore didn't QP. We only noticed now that they have sent the report several weeks later. They're arguing that there is no need to retest.
Thanks, Mark From: Larry K. Stillings <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 5, 2024 3:46 PM To: Stultz, Mark <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: RE: Radiated Emissions - How many points to QP? You don't often get email from [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Mark, If the peak is above the limit (which most standards allow up to 20 dB), then wouldn't you also need to know the quasi-peak of all the signals above the limit so you could compare them to the limit? The limit is in QP not peak. I guess failing is failing, but you really wouldn't know by how much. Is it really that much more work to take a QP, or maybe the automation software doesn't support that? We're old school and still take the data manually and I have the guys always take both (peak and quasi-peak). Larry K. Stillings Compliance Worldwide, Inc. Test Locally, Sell Globally and Launch Your Products Around the World! FCC - Wireless - Telecom - CE Marking - International Approvals - Product Safety 357 Main Street Sandown, NH 03873 (603) 887 3903 Fax 887-6445 complianceworldwide.com<https://complianceworldwide.com/> <https://complianceworldwide.com/> Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of my firm shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. From: Stultz, Mark Sent: Friday, April 05, 2024 3:33 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [PSES] Radiated Emissions - How many points to QP? Hello PSES brain trust, When doing radiated emissions measurements, how many frequencies should be quasi-peaked? CISPR 16-2-3 clause 6.4.9 states: "Of those disturbances above (L-20dB), where L is the limit level in logarithmic units, the disturbance levels and the frequencies of at least the six highest disturbances shall be recorded." We have always done QP measurements on all peak measurements above the limit, even if that is more than six points. I have a lab arguing that they only need to measure the top six, regardless of how many peak measurements are above the limit. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks, Mark ________________________________ This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/<https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/%20> Website: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/ Instructions: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/list.html> List rules: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Sherman at: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Rick Linford at: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher at: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to [email protected] All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Website: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/ Instructions: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Sherman at: [email protected] Rick Linford at: [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> _________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1
