John, Sorry, but let me point out that you describe a group of people a potentially undesirable name based on your opinion of what they stand for: that is political.
I will be happy to discuss this further, but lets please take the discussion off list. It has no place here. Sincerely, Derek. > On Nov 9, 2022, at 1:36 PM, John > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Derek > > Your comment is itself VERY political! > > Mine was simply an observation on what might possibly happen if current > trends continue in some EU countries and was in direct reply to John M's > question! > > John E Allen > W London, UK > > Get BlueMail for Android <https://bluemail.me/> > On 9 Nov 2022, at 19:06, Lfresearch > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Sorry John, > > but your comment is highly political. What you call extreme right is what > most of us call central. Around the world there is a correction in progress > for a horrible left drift thats been happening over several decades. > > Hopefully there will be many more exits. > > It’s best to avoid referencing politics in list postings. > > Sincerely, > > Derek. > >> On Nov 9, 2022, at 12:35 PM, John E Allen >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Hi Folks >> >> >> Don’t count 100% on there being no more EU exits if – and I’m quite serious >> – more extreme Right Wing politicians get into power in their respective >> member countries as quite a few of them are very nationalistic and anti-EU! >> >> >> NB: that is NOT meant in any way to be a “politically-biased comment”, just >> an observation on what is actually going on in some member countries across >> the EU ! >> >> >> John E Allen >> >> W. London, UK. >> >> >> From: Glyn Payne <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: 09 November 2022 17:51 >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [PSES] Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending >> Regulatory Change to UKCA Program >> >> >> Hi John, >> >> >> Fingers crossed there will be no more EU exits, though it would make >> producing safety guides in all EU languages a bit easier! >> >> >> All the best, >> >> >> >> Glyn >> >> >> From: John Mcbain <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: 08 November 2022 21:08 >> To: Glyn Payne <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [PSES] Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending >> Regulatory Change to UKCA Program >> >> >> Hi Glyn - >> >> >> Thanks for your comments! I understand that each EU country implements the >> EU regulations for itself, although homogeneous application is expected >> (after the discussion and voting you mentioned). >> >> >> However, as I said in my previous message, I was selfishly looking only at >> the additional product regulatory work for me, if every country in the EU >> decided to follow the example of the UK and implement separate national >> regulations, marking and documentation instead of the uniform CE Marking and >> Declaration of Conformity. >> >> >> I am not particularly interested in sovereignty, but I am interested >> (dismayed, actually) at the thought of doing 10 times more work with the >> same resources and absolutely no value added. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> John McBain >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 9:00 AM Glyn Payne <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> >>> “I would hate to see the other countries in the EU decide to seize national >>> sovereignty and implement their own regulations,” >>> >>> >>> Good point, however the Sovereignty bit was always a red herring since any >>> Directive issued by the EU is already agreed by the Commission, who are the >>> member governments, so the UK Government would be party to any Directive in >>> the first place. The Commissions Directive is then voted on by the MEPs, >>> which of course included elected UK MEPs, and if passed then the Directive >>> is issued to all member states for them to implement in a way that is >>> compatible with their Sovereign Laws. >>> >>> >>> In the UK’s case, before a Directive became UK Law it was scrutinised and >>> voted on by UK MPs, then scrutinised and voted on by the House of Lords, >>> before it ultimately becomes part of UK Sovereign Law. No EU Directive >>> could ever be imposed in individual sovereign governments without the >>> agreement of their Parliaments. >>> >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> >>> >>> Glyn Payne. >>> >>> >>> From: John Mcbain <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Sent: 07 November 2022 22:08 >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [PSES] Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending >>> Regulatory Change to UKCA Program >>> >>> >>> My apolo > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. 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