Hi Nicolas, Nicolas Goaziou <m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:
> This is not a good default, at least for beginners, because Org provides > a better solution out of the box. There are also better solutions > outside Org (e.g., Yasnippet). Well, let's agree to disagree on this one. org-tempo and C-c C- fill two different use cases: the first one for fast block insertion while typing, the second one for e.g. when the region is selected. I don't think allowing org-tempo "shadows" C-c C-, in any fashion. > It is only valuable for existing users, who relied on this feature, and > don't want to switch. It's perfectly understandable, but it is also fair > to assume they can add (require 'org-module) to their own configuration. > _Removing_ the module, OTOH, is subtle. M-x customize-option RET org-modules seems okay to me. > By the way, this does not belong to the same category as other > defcustoms discussed. This is only tangential to "how does Org should > look and feel by default". It relates to: should Org provide multiple > snippet extensions, knowing this is not a central feature, and Org is > often seen as bloated by Emacs devs? I don't think so, no matter how > useful this feature can be for some users. I'll be more receptive to this argument when animate-birthday-present is not in Emacs's core anymore :) That said, I'm receptive to the idea that Org could be more focused to its core functionalities. E.g., I think we could be more minimalistic about the ol-* and ox-* libraries in Org. Also, we should get rid of org-modules altogether now that Emacs has a packaging system. I'd suggest a discussion on this for after 9.4. -- Bastien
