On 07/07/2026 00:14, Matthew Brost wrote:
On Mon, Jul 06, 2026 at 01:27:46PM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:


On 03/07/2026 10:06, Matthew Brost wrote:
On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 03:37:41PM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
As the submission side of xe is serialized by the global GuC CT lock, we

Profiling shows that, without backpressure on the firmware interface
channels, guc_send_ct throughput is about 4 H2G messages per
microsecond. As such, the serialization here is very likely just a
spin-wait on a short critical section.

The work items also perform work outside the CT lock, but in practice,
for the non-waiting CT-lock cases, it may not matter whether we use a
single workqueue or multiple workqueues give the slowest point is likely
the GuC dequeuing H2G.

Yes, and how fast is the GuC MCU vs how many main CPU threads is realistic to spawn to feed it. The number is maybe not one, but maybe it is also not that many more. I know we got to this point because it was the easy way, and I think it is also okay to do something completely different like split the scheduler better or write a new one. Although both those options need buy-in from the DRM scheduler and DRM maintainers. End goal is simply to provide a smooth UI to users.

We're also looking at doing ULLS submission in the KMD, in which case
there would be no serialization at all. Likewise, if we created
doorbells, we would not need to serialize either.

This series seems like backing Xe design into a corner for a problem
that compositors / RT submissions have a pretty reasoable different
option (bypass). More below.

can easily afford to create our own per gt work queues. Whereas before
kernel could create up to the number of CPUs threads, we now create one
per GT.


This breaks down for any execution queue that waits in a scheduler work
item for any reason. Long-running preemption queues do this for
time-slicing, multi-queue registration, and possibly a few other cases.

I've looked at this before and rough divide is this works for 3D but not
long running.

Hmmm curious. Could you expand a bit more on this?

Where do those wait, in run job or prepare job? And on what ie. where is the
cross-dependency?

I think run_job can wait on multi-q syncs if a sync is outstanding for
the group.

Not sure I understand. A synchronous wait in the run_job callback on something not yet submitted? Because if it is already submitted it would be ahead in the queue so it wouldn't hang, no?

Regards,

Tvrtko

Is it related to the alien work items xe "injects" onto the scheduler
workers?

Preempt fences inject suspend/resume messages into the scheduler queue
to toggle scheduling state and wait for a suspend timeslice.
Additionally, if the state machine that tracks asynchronous firmware
commands is in an unexpected state, we wait for the firmware before
issuing another command.

As a general principle, we've accepted that it is okay to sleep because
this runs on a dedicated workqueue. We could rework that, but I'd prefer
not to, as it simplifies the code considerably.

Matt


Regards,

Tvrtko

Signed-off-by: Tvrtko Ursulin <[email protected]>
Cc: Matthew Brost <[email protected]>
Cc: Rodrigo Vivi <[email protected]>
Cc: "Thomas Hellström" <[email protected]>
---
   drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_gt.c         |  7 +++++++
   drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_gt_types.h   |  3 +++
   drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_guc_submit.c | 11 +++++++----
   3 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_gt.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_gt.c
index 783eb6d631b5..fb2db9eff341 100644
--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_gt.c
+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_gt.c
@@ -706,6 +706,8 @@ static void xe_gt_fini(void *arg)
        for (i = 0; i < XE_ENGINE_CLASS_MAX; ++i)
                xe_hw_fence_irq_finish(&gt->fence_irq[i]);
+       destroy_workqueue(gt->submit_wq);
+
        xe_gt_disable_host_l2_vram(gt);
   }
@@ -716,6 +718,11 @@ int xe_gt_init(struct xe_gt *gt)
        INIT_WORK(&gt->reset.worker, gt_reset_worker);
+       gt->submit_wq = alloc_ordered_workqueue("xe-submit-gt%u",
+                                               WQ_MEM_RECLAIM, gt->info.id);
+       if (IS_ERR(gt->submit_wq))
+               return PTR_ERR(gt->submit_wq);
+
        for (i = 0; i < XE_ENGINE_CLASS_MAX; ++i) {
                gt->ring_ops[i] = xe_ring_ops_get(gt, i);
                xe_hw_fence_irq_init(&gt->fence_irq[i]);
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_gt_types.h b/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_gt_types.h
index e5588c88800a..175c42672546 100644
--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_gt_types.h
+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_gt_types.h
@@ -248,6 +248,9 @@ struct xe_gt {
        /** @exec_queue_ops: submission backend exec queue operations */
        const struct xe_exec_queue_ops *exec_queue_ops;
+       /** @submit_wq: ... */
+       struct workqueue_struct *submit_wq;
+
        /**
         * @ring_ops: ring operations for this hw engine (1 per engine class)
         */
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_guc_submit.c 
b/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_guc_submit.c
index 9458bf477fa6..858f84dc8fed 100644
--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_guc_submit.c
+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_guc_submit.c
@@ -1928,11 +1928,12 @@ static int guc_exec_queue_init(struct xe_exec_queue *q)
        struct xe_gpu_scheduler *sched;
        struct xe_guc *guc = exec_queue_to_guc(q);
        struct workqueue_struct *submit_wq = NULL;
+       struct xe_gt *gt = guc_to_gt(guc);
        struct xe_guc_exec_queue *ge;
        long timeout;
        int err, i;
-       xe_gt_assert(guc_to_gt(guc), xe_device_uc_enabled(guc_to_xe(guc)));
+       xe_gt_assert(gt, xe_device_uc_enabled(guc_to_xe(guc)));
        ge = kzalloc_obj(*ge);
        if (!ge)
@@ -1964,12 +1965,14 @@ static int guc_exec_queue_init(struct xe_exec_queue *q)
                struct xe_exec_queue *primary = 
xe_exec_queue_multi_queue_primary(q);
                submit_wq = primary->guc->sched.base.submit_wq;
+       } else {
+               submit_wq = gt->submit_wq;
        }
        err = xe_sched_init(&ge->sched, &drm_sched_ops, &xe_sched_ops,
-                           submit_wq, xe_lrc_ring_size() / MAX_JOB_SIZE_BYTES, 
64,
-                           timeout, guc_to_gt(guc)->ordered_wq, NULL,
-                           q->name, gt_to_xe(q->gt)->drm.dev);
+                           submit_wq, xe_lrc_ring_size() / MAX_JOB_SIZE_BYTES,
+                           64, timeout, gt->ordered_wq, NULL, q->name,
+                           gt_to_xe(gt)->drm.dev);
        if (err)
                goto err_release_id;
--
2.54.0



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