On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 07:36:18 +0100
Terry Coles <d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk> wrote:

> On Saturday, 15 June 2019 21:19:17 BST Hamish MB wrote:
> > I have been running badblock's read-only test on the other bad drive
> > (currently in the NAS) today. There have been a total of 292 bad sectors
> > thus far - I don't trust this drive not to randomly fail/degrade rapidly.  
> 
> That's less than the one I have here, but still not good.
>  
> > If gsmartctl is right, the drive has been powered on for a total of
> > around 7 years! Does this sound reasonable, Terry?  
> 
> I just checked and yes it is probably right,  Those discs were originally 
> bought when I purchased my Netgear Stora in October 2011.  Being a NAS, the 
> Stora was never powered down so they would have continued non-stop until the 
> Stora was zapped by a lightning strike (it didn't' actually hit the Stora you 
> understand).
> 
> I then purchased the D-Link Sharecenter in September 2016 and transferred the 
> discs from the Stora.  I retired the D-Link in February last year because the 
> D-Link support was poor (very few updates) and the discs were full anyway.  
> 
> The replacement was a Netgear ReadyNAS with 2 TB discs, so no transfer needed.
> 
> So those discs would have run pretty much continuously from October 2011 to 
> Feb 2018 - getting on for 7 years anyway.
> 
> This raises the spectre of the age of the (so far) good drive.  If it's as 
> old 
> as the bad one, we may end up with the same problem quite soon.
> 
> > Either way, we could try rescuing these drives with the destructive (or
> > non-destructive) read-write options for badblocks, but I think it
> > probably makes more sense to get a new 1 TB drive. I doubt they're too
> > expensive, seeing as 1TB isn't huge these days.  
> 
> They start at around £25 for an unheard of brand on Amazon.  Brands such as 
> Seagate or Western Digital start at around £35.  The problem is, if the 
> second 
> drive is aging too, we might need to replace both.
> 
> One solution is to populate the drive with two smaller drives; say 500 GB.  
> They start at around £20 each.  I think that we need to discuss this at the 
> WMT before we go too far spending their money.
> 
> > This is especially a good idea, because any custom programs/software we
> > build/compile for this may have to be on the HDDs - the NAND storage is
> > tiny and writing to it probably means re-flashing it. There is a
> > serial/debug port on the PCB to which we can solder pins to unbrick it
> > if we have to, but this may be an avenue best avoided. Also, the NAND is
> > only 128MB - probably not enough to add anything useful.  
> 
> See above.
> 
> > As for how well it handles damaged drives, the RAID re-sync failed
> > (without any error!) after I removed and reinserted the bad drive. The
> > current state of the array is "degraded" - we probably need a good
> > drive/to fix one of these before we use it.  
> 
> See above.  I think we may need at least one new drive if we are going to 
> continue with this idea.
> 

Hi Terry, if you want a pair of 500gb drive I have a pair of Western Digital 
green sata you can
have?

Tim H

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