Actually I maintain 22 modules, some are simple, some are complex. To test
all of them correctly (use all feature, modify doc, …) each time a new major
version of Dolibarr is release is more than 2 full weeks long for Romain an
me...

During the month a new version comes out, sales of modules on dolistore are
halved cut (according to my information it is not related to my modules
only).

 

I could do as some others … , just change the version number and wait for my
clients put bugs me but I do not find it honest

 

Most integrators with whom I work no longer wish to upgrade versions as
there are no major advances between two versions either-called major

The final version of each major costs money and energy to NOTHING: just to
show that development teams are able to release two versions per year, two
versions full of vacuum .

 

We have all been waiting for new accountancy module for 2 years. The time
spent to release a new version will have better been employed to work on
this strategic module…

 

 

Bien cordialement,

Charlie Benke

 

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Envoyé : mercredi 19 octobre 2016 16:24
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Objet : Re: [Dolibarr-dev] [Dolibarr-association] Dolibarr 4.0.1

 

Hi

Thanks to Camille for pointing the main problem : Module and ratio time
spend / bug / patch
As integrator of Dolibarr, it's not "sustainable" for me to test every six
month Dolibarr and the modules I'm commonly using. Today I only install 3.9.
Maybe next year, I will uprade to 5.0 or not... depending of what functions
will be added or remaining experimental.
Modules are too often broken by new version. On the Dolistore you can see
module labeled 3.x-4.0 who are in fact broken with the last version or
doesn't exist for the current version of Dolibarr. I think it's not good for
the reputation of Dolibarr.
I'll be pleased to discuss about this subject in Valence :-)

Regards
Philippe Scoffoni - Open-DSI


Le 19/10/2016 à 15:14, cam.la...@azerttyu.net
<mailto:cam.la...@azerttyu.net>  a écrit :



Hi

 

Thanks for sharing this.

I agree, Dolibarr migration is pretty nice !

 

but only core part, modules looks more problematic to update.

 

Regarding communication, this is a work in progress. 

 

Yes I saw this :) But looks again difficult. But it's better :)

 

>From now on, we'll have systematic annoucement when a major version is
released, minor version too, why not. A communication group has been started
within the fundation with the goal to better communicate with the community.
We already are present on social medias, but this dev mailing-list and the
dolistore customers are 2 audiences we poorly communicate with (not to say
not at all).

 

I don't understand logic, dolibarr users/community are on forum, mailinglist
but piority is social network, strange 

 

About your concerns around PRs and plugins, I'm sorry you feel that way. PRs
are usually correctly integrated and not lost. 

 

Maybe now, I'll try again. But I'm not sure. My fear is to lost again energy
to nothing.

 

Plugins are the responsibility of their developers. Personnaly, our plugins
are upgraded with the new releases

 

I'm not module developper then I don't know if is complicate or not to
follow release and provide. As user, i prefer to have my own script and
don't use module. In my use case ratio time spend / bug / patch is too
heavy.

Thanks a lot

 

km






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