Hello, Bonnie!
2013/1/22 Bonnie Smith Ries <riesenhauswo...@gmail.com> > I'd love to work on this; I am a brand-new volunteer, though, and don't > know how to download the documentation. Any help would be appreciated! > Right now, the documentation is growing on the wiki, so it is online only: you need an account to edit the documents. I think there is an extension for Writer to export on wiki format but I've never used it. As you know Spanish, you can help me to translate the pages existing on the ES wiki. I'll create the pages on the EN wiki to fill them. Regards Ricardo > > Me gustaría mucho trabajar en este proyecto; soy voluntaria nueva, y no sé > descargar los documentos. ¡Agradecería de cualquiera ayuda! > > Español no es mi idioma primero, pero puedo escribirlo tolerablemente. > > Bonnie Smith Ries > > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 8:08 AM, RGB ES <rgb.m...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > 2013/1/18 RGB ES <rgb.m...@gmail.com> > > > > > I started to create the User Guide pages on the wiki > > > > > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide > > > > > > > > > > I need some help here. There are now several pages covering the beginning > > of the guide > > > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/UI > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Formatting > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/SearchReplace > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/AutoCorrect > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Extensions > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Options > > and the sub page > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Options/AOO > > > > All these pages needs proofreading (as you can see, English is not my > > native language) and someone that fill their holes. > > > > The page about supported file formats is completely empty and needs an > > author > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/FileFormats > > > > I think a general spellcheck guide is also needed, but not sure where to > > put it on the "tree". Maybe below Formatting and before SearchReplace? > > > > Also, install guides are needed, maybe at the beginning of the guide? I > > wrote a Linux install guide on the forums that can be "wikified": > > > > http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=50119 > > > > In the near future I can start with the Writer and Math guides, but > someone > > needs to take care of other components. > > > > Thoughts? Volunteers? ;) > > > > Regards > > Ricardo > > > > > > > > > Even if there is some content scattered on those pages (the UI page and > > > Java section under Options menu... someone needs to check my grammar) > > they > > > are mainly empty right now, but on the following days I'll try to > > translate > > > what it is already done on the ES wiki > > > > > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ES/Manuales/GuiaAOO > > > > > > Regards > > > Ricardo > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/1/15 RGB ES <rgb.m...@gmail.com> > > > > > >> 2013/1/13 Regina Henschel <rb.hensc...@t-online.de> > > >> > > >>> Hi Ricardo, > > >>> > > >>> RGB ES schrieb: > > >>> > > >>> <snip> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> I propose to omit the version number level. As can be seen for > > >>> ODFAuthors it is unlikely, that all documents are new written for a > new > > >>> version and sometimes it is not needed at all. LibreOffice 4.0 is in > > RC1, > > >>> but some documents are for 3.4, some for 3.5, and 3.6 is missing > > totally. > > >>> The situation becomes worse, if you think of documentations in other > > >>> languages. > > >>> > > >>> I propose this way: Use a hierarchy > > >>> /wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/**Tips/Writer > > >>> or > > >>> /wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/**Writer/Tips > > >>> I'm not sure about the best order. > > >>> > > >>> If some content becomes outdated and has to be replaced, then > generate > > a > > >>> new page with the same title, but a version addition. > > >>> > > >>> Example: A outdated content in the path > > >>> /wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/**General/UI/Customize_Toolbar > > >>> would be copied to a path > > >>> /wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/**General/UI/Customize_Toolbar_**3_4 > > >>> and the original page gets a comment line with a link to the old > > version > > >>> and the old version gets a comment line back to the newer version. > > >>> This has to be done by the person, who writes the new content. > > >>> > > >>> This has the advantage, that there will be no tree of empty pages, > but > > >>> the user will always come to the most actual document, when he starts > > in > > >>> /wiki/Documentation and follows the tree. > > >>> > > >> > > >> Good point! I like the idea of moving outdated content to sub-pages. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> In the start, when not enough actual content is available, this > single > > >>> comment line can link to the existing ODFAuthors 3.3 or 3.2 documents > > or > > >>> other suitable wiki pages. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> The idea is to create all the pages at once, with just the > categories > > >>>> "Documentation" and "UserGuide" and a template similar to the one we > > >>>> use on > > >>>> the ES wiki(2) for "work in process new pages", that we can call > > "Draft" > > >>>> (not sure if there is one already: I cannot find it). > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> Creating a new "UserGuide" section is OK, but same other sections > need > > >>> to be there from the beginning too. I think of pathes to the > developers > > >>> guide, to the building guide, to the QA tutorials, to the Calc > > functions > > >>> reference. > > >> > > >> > > >> Sure. We can update the main documentation page(1) to gather all those > > >> elements on one place. > > >> > > >> (1) http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> In parallel, we can start discussing about writing style, > screenshots > > >>>> (desktop theme...) and related problems on other topics. > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> There is the page http://wiki.openoffice.org/** > > >>> wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/**Wiki_Editing_Policy< > > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/Wiki_Editing_Policy > > >. > > >>> It is already fairly good, and can be used as start. Adaption to AOO > > is of > > >>> cause needed. > > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks for the link! Looking there I see that the DraftPage template > is > > >> already present: {{Documentation/DraftPage}} > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> After "seeding" some pages with content we start a call for authors > > and > > >>>> the > > >>>> "real writing"(3). Finally, when the author is ready he/she calls > for > > >>>> review/proof reading and when every is OK we delete the "Draft" > > >>>> template. > > >>>> > > >>>> What do you think? > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> I fear, a lot a pages will stay "draft" for ever. > > >>> > > >>> What are your plans about the old Dokumentation hierarchy ? > > >>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/** > > >>> Wiki_Editing_Policy#Structure_**of_the_Documentation_Section_** > > >>> of_the_Wiki< > > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/Wiki_Editing_Policy#Structure_of_the_Documentation_Section_of_the_Wiki > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> No plans, for the moment. I just tried to start the discussion for a > > self > > >> contained 4.0 user guide written from scratch and easy to maintain. > > >> > > >> The structure of the Documentation section on the wiki is indeed quite > > >> complex and it is difficult for a new user to tell apart what's still > > >> valid. Maybe we need to make a completely fresh start here, moving old > > >> content to a "legacy" section... but on the other hand we cannot left > > the > > >> site empty. > > >> > > >> Regards > > >> Ricardo > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Kind regards > > >>> Regina > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > XOXOXOXO > Bonnie Smith Ries >
