I'd love to work on this; I am a brand-new volunteer, though, and don't know how to download the documentation. Any help would be appreciated!
Me gustaría mucho trabajar en este proyecto; soy voluntaria nueva, y no sé descargar los documentos. ¡Agradecería de cualquiera ayuda! Español no es mi idioma primero, pero puedo escribirlo tolerablemente. Bonnie Smith Ries On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 8:08 AM, RGB ES <rgb.m...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2013/1/18 RGB ES <rgb.m...@gmail.com> > > > I started to create the User Guide pages on the wiki > > > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide > > > > > > I need some help here. There are now several pages covering the beginning > of the guide > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/UI > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Formatting > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/SearchReplace > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/AutoCorrect > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Extensions > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Options > and the sub page > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Options/AOO > > All these pages needs proofreading (as you can see, English is not my > native language) and someone that fill their holes. > > The page about supported file formats is completely empty and needs an > author > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/FileFormats > > I think a general spellcheck guide is also needed, but not sure where to > put it on the "tree". Maybe below Formatting and before SearchReplace? > > Also, install guides are needed, maybe at the beginning of the guide? I > wrote a Linux install guide on the forums that can be "wikified": > > http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=50119 > > In the near future I can start with the Writer and Math guides, but someone > needs to take care of other components. > > Thoughts? Volunteers? ;) > > Regards > Ricardo > > > > > Even if there is some content scattered on those pages (the UI page and > > Java section under Options menu... someone needs to check my grammar) > they > > are mainly empty right now, but on the following days I'll try to > translate > > what it is already done on the ES wiki > > > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ES/Manuales/GuiaAOO > > > > Regards > > Ricardo > > > > > > > > 2013/1/15 RGB ES <rgb.m...@gmail.com> > > > >> 2013/1/13 Regina Henschel <rb.hensc...@t-online.de> > >> > >>> Hi Ricardo, > >>> > >>> RGB ES schrieb: > >>> > >>> <snip> > >>> > >>> > >>> I propose to omit the version number level. As can be seen for > >>> ODFAuthors it is unlikely, that all documents are new written for a new > >>> version and sometimes it is not needed at all. LibreOffice 4.0 is in > RC1, > >>> but some documents are for 3.4, some for 3.5, and 3.6 is missing > totally. > >>> The situation becomes worse, if you think of documentations in other > >>> languages. > >>> > >>> I propose this way: Use a hierarchy > >>> /wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/**Tips/Writer > >>> or > >>> /wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/**Writer/Tips > >>> I'm not sure about the best order. > >>> > >>> If some content becomes outdated and has to be replaced, then generate > a > >>> new page with the same title, but a version addition. > >>> > >>> Example: A outdated content in the path > >>> /wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/**General/UI/Customize_Toolbar > >>> would be copied to a path > >>> /wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/**General/UI/Customize_Toolbar_**3_4 > >>> and the original page gets a comment line with a link to the old > version > >>> and the old version gets a comment line back to the newer version. > >>> This has to be done by the person, who writes the new content. > >>> > >>> This has the advantage, that there will be no tree of empty pages, but > >>> the user will always come to the most actual document, when he starts > in > >>> /wiki/Documentation and follows the tree. > >>> > >> > >> Good point! I like the idea of moving outdated content to sub-pages. > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> In the start, when not enough actual content is available, this single > >>> comment line can link to the existing ODFAuthors 3.3 or 3.2 documents > or > >>> other suitable wiki pages. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> The idea is to create all the pages at once, with just the categories > >>>> "Documentation" and "UserGuide" and a template similar to the one we > >>>> use on > >>>> the ES wiki(2) for "work in process new pages", that we can call > "Draft" > >>>> (not sure if there is one already: I cannot find it). > >>>> > >>> > >>> Creating a new "UserGuide" section is OK, but same other sections need > >>> to be there from the beginning too. I think of pathes to the developers > >>> guide, to the building guide, to the QA tutorials, to the Calc > functions > >>> reference. > >> > >> > >> Sure. We can update the main documentation page(1) to gather all those > >> elements on one place. > >> > >> (1) http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> In parallel, we can start discussing about writing style, screenshots > >>>> (desktop theme...) and related problems on other topics. > >>>> > >>> > >>> There is the page http://wiki.openoffice.org/** > >>> wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/**Wiki_Editing_Policy< > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/Wiki_Editing_Policy > >. > >>> It is already fairly good, and can be used as start. Adaption to AOO > is of > >>> cause needed. > >> > >> > >> Thanks for the link! Looking there I see that the DraftPage template is > >> already present: {{Documentation/DraftPage}} > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> After "seeding" some pages with content we start a call for authors > and > >>>> the > >>>> "real writing"(3). Finally, when the author is ready he/she calls for > >>>> review/proof reading and when every is OK we delete the "Draft" > >>>> template. > >>>> > >>>> What do you think? > >>>> > >>> > >>> I fear, a lot a pages will stay "draft" for ever. > >>> > >>> What are your plans about the old Dokumentation hierarchy ? > >>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/** > >>> Wiki_Editing_Policy#Structure_**of_the_Documentation_Section_** > >>> of_the_Wiki< > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/Wiki_Editing_Policy#Structure_of_the_Documentation_Section_of_the_Wiki > > > >> > >> > >> > >> No plans, for the moment. I just tried to start the discussion for a > self > >> contained 4.0 user guide written from scratch and easy to maintain. > >> > >> The structure of the Documentation section on the wiki is indeed quite > >> complex and it is difficult for a new user to tell apart what's still > >> valid. Maybe we need to make a completely fresh start here, moving old > >> content to a "legacy" section... but on the other hand we cannot left > the > >> site empty. > >> > >> Regards > >> Ricardo > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Kind regards > >>> Regina > >>> > >>> > >> > > > -- XOXOXOXO Bonnie Smith Ries
