On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 12:59 AM Steve Crocker <st...@shinkuro.com> wrote:
>  Despite the reference to DNSSEC in the title, I think the life cycle 
> concepts apply to the use of algorithms in all settings.

I'm wondering if you might want to make your draft more generic, and
explicitly expand it to all protocols/technologies.

(funny enough, despite its title, draft-buraglio-deprecate7050 doesn't
really obsolete RFC7050, so 'deprecation' is not the right term).

> On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 1:52 PM Jen Linkova <furr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 11:26 PM Steve Crocker <st...@shinkuro.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Documenting and Managing DNSSEC Algorithm Lifecycles
>>> draft-crocker-dnsop-dnssec-algorithm-lifecycle-01
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I noted during the DNSOP session yesterday that two algorithms were 
>>> selected for deprecation.  I believe the message below pertains to one of 
>>> them.  As noted in the life cycle document, the process of downgrading the 
>>> use of an algorithm should go through three(!) phases.  As described in the 
>>> I-D, a sequence of three actions is described: Phaseout, Deprecation, 
>>> Obsolescence.  (Feel free to propose alternative words that are 
>>> grammatically parallel.). The text is quoted below.
>>>
>>> Questions for the DNSOP WG re moving an algorithm to "deprecate" status:
>>>
>>> Does moving an algorithm to "deprecate" state exactly match any of the 
>>> actions listed in the lifecycle draft?  If so, which one?  If not, why not?
>>
>>
>> draft-buraglio-deprecate7050 has nothing to do with DNSSEC (well, one of the 
>> problem of RFC7050 is that it's don't work with DNSSEC), so I'm not sure the 
>> DNSSEC algorithms lifecycle terminology applies here.
>>
>> I agree that we might think about wording (e.g. call it "Discouraging" 
>> instead of "Deprecation").
>>
>> I believe that the Redhat incident scenario is not really applicable here, 
>> as the draft only recommends that operators provide other methods 
>> (non-DNS-based), and hosts using those methods when available.
>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: IETF Secretariat <ietf-secretariat-re...@ietf.org>
>>> Date: Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 7:00 PM
>>> Subject: [DNSOP] The DNSOP WG has placed draft-buraglio-deprecate7050 in 
>>> state "Candidate for WG Adoption"
>>> To: <dnsop-cha...@ietf.org>, <dnsop@ietf.org>, 
>>> <draft-buraglio-deprecate7...@ietf.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The DNSOP WG has placed draft-buraglio-deprecate7050 in state
>>> Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Tim Wicinski)
>>>
>>> The document is available at
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-buraglio-deprecate7050/
>>>
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