Thanks for the reply, Steve.

On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 12:26 PM Steve Crocker <st...@shinkuro.com> wrote:

> Folks,
>
> Thanks very much for considering
>
> Documenting and Managing DNSSEC Algorithm Lifecycles
> draft-crocker-dnsop-dnssec-algorithm-lifecycle-01
>
> For reference, I was motivated to propose this when I understood how the
> Red Hat incident evolved.  For those who haven't followed that incident,
> Red Hat removed an algorithm from the library, but messages with that
> algorithm continued to arrive, causing a bit of chaos.
>
> I noted during the DNSOP session yesterday that two algorithms were
> selected for deprecation.  I believe the message below pertains to one of
> them.  As noted in the life cycle document, the process of downgrading the
> use of an algorithm should go through three(!) phases.  As described in the
> I-D, a sequence of three actions is described: Phaseout, Deprecation, 
> Obsolescence.
> (Feel free to propose alternative words that are grammatically parallel.).
> The text is quoted below.
>
> Questions for the DNSOP WG re moving an algorithm to "deprecate" status:
>
>    1. Does moving an algorithm to "deprecate" state exactly match any of
>    the actions listed in the lifecycle draft?  If so, which one?  If not, why
>    not?
>
>    2. Is there a plan or process for taking the other actions?
>
>
As Jen stated, there is not really a cryptographic algorithm in play, per
se. However, once this was published I second guessed the term
"depreciation" since I think that what we really want to do is encourage
pref64 over 7050 behavior.
I think we can probably come up with some more fitting language. I
personally akin to the phrase "Encourage use of pref64 over
RFC7050/DNS64/DNS for IPv6-only prefix discovery", or something similar.
Depending on tone, we could also say "discourage"; I tend to lean to the
positive over the negative, but whatever the group thinks is ok with me.

A question for the group: Would adjusting the term "depreciation" to
something less rigid be more desirable?


> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
>
> D.  Phaseout
>
>    *  Prerequisites:
>
>       -  Cryptographic community has determined the algorithm is
>          reaching its end of life.
>
>    *  IETF determines it is time to announce the phaseout.
>
>    *  Action: IETF publishes notice to signing operators to transition
>       away from the algorithm and begin signing with a mainstream
>       algorithm.
>
>    E.  Deprecation
>
>    *  Prerequisites:
>
>       -  Measure signing activity.
>
>       -  Signing activity is deemed to have largely subsided.
>
>    *  IETF determines it is time to deprecate the algorithm for use with
>       DNSSEC.
>
>    *  Action: IETF publishes notice that use of the algorithm is now
>       inappropriate for DNSSEC signing.
>
>    F.  Obsolescence
>
>    *  Prerequisite: Measurement of signing is at the lowest achievable
>       level.
>
>    *  IETF determines the algorithm is obsolete.
>
>    *  Action: IETF publishes notice that [the] algorithm is obsolete and 
> ought [to] be removed from implementations.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: IETF Secretariat <ietf-secretariat-re...@ietf.org>
> Date: Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 7:00 PM
> Subject: [DNSOP] The DNSOP WG has placed draft-buraglio-deprecate7050 in
> state "Candidate for WG Adoption"
> To: <dnsop-cha...@ietf.org>, <dnsop@ietf.org>, <
> draft-buraglio-deprecate7...@ietf.org>
>
>
>
> The DNSOP WG has placed draft-buraglio-deprecate7050 in state
> Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Tim Wicinski)
>
> The document is available at
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-buraglio-deprecate7050/
>
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