Yep, we are in a much better position than we were in 2019.  Most failures are
well < 1% when talking to authoritative servers.  Broken firewall defaults have
been fixed and mostly deployed.

> On 27 Feb 2024, at 16:41, George Michaelson <g...@algebras.org> wrote:
> 
> so yet again, I voice things which show my ignorance, not yours. I
> thank you for the gentle clue-stick hit, it was educational.
> 
> -G
> 
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 12:24 PM Shumon Huque <shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 12:01 AM Mark Andrews <ma...@isc.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 27 Feb 2024, at 15:53, George Michaelson <g...@algebras.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Not in any way to stop this specific draft, I wonder if this is a more
>>>> general principle of exercising code points which are not marked
>>>> "never to be used" and should also be raised cross-area, or in another
>>>> place?
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe the best path is to get this proved here, and then embrace-extend.
>>> 
>>> Sure there are a lot of places where this should be done.  This is going
>>> to cover DNS.
>> 
>> 
>> Yup, and although Mark and I have been mulling this for DNS for a number
>> of years now, the general principle has also been discussed elsewhere (see
>> the references to greasing) and RFC 8701 describes greasing for TLS.
>> 
>> We should track that work too, but this draft can focus on the DNS use case.
>> 
>> Shumon.
>> 

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