Dear all, +1 on Eliot and thank you Stephane. My deepest appreciation for Tömas suggestion that really made my evening.
An in-person meeting might be conducive to fleshing out a topic for this meeting, but at least to me "services centralization" rings like it might also concern detnet, quic and perhaps other groups that I cannot immediately think of. Probably we mean "DNS service centralization"? best regards, Amelia On 2019-03-12 08:19, Eliot Lear wrote: > Warren, > > I would suggest that you wait on creating a new list. > > I think Stephane was proposing an *in person* meeting, using the > 104sidemeetings Wiki, and I’d like to see that happen first. That > also gives time for the dust from the release of these new drafts to > settle a bit, so that the contours of what can be reasonably > accomplished becomes more clear. > > Eliot > > >> On 12 Mar 2019, at 07:45, Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net >> <mailto:war...@kumari.net>> wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:58 AM Stephane Bortzmeyer >> <bortzme...@nic.fr <mailto:bortzme...@nic.fr>> wrote: >> >> [Sorry for the long list of working groups but the discussion already >> started in different places.] >> >> There are been some discussion about DoH (DNS-over-HTTPS, RFC 8484) >> deployment and the risk of centralization of Internet services. >> >> (See >> for instance drafts [this is not an endorsement] >> draft-bertola-bcp-doh-clients, draft-reid-doh-operator and >> draft-livingood-doh-implementation-risks-issues.) >> >> It was suggested <wikipedia>Reference necessary</wikipedia> to have a >> side meeting in Prague at IETF 104. I propose monday, 1400-1600 in >> Tyrolka. The proposal is at >> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/104sidemeetings>. You >> are welcome to agree/disagree/meet in a bar instead. >> >> >> [ Replying here instead of bottom of thread ] >> >> Thank you for proposing / organizing this - there has been a lot of >> discussions, but (as demonstrated by the list of WGs in the To: line) >> it is somewhat unclear where the discussions should happen -- I'm >> planning on asking the secretariat to please make us a mailing list >> to better focus the discussions -- does anyone have a strong >> objection to this? >> >> (also, a good suggestion for a name would be helpful :-)) >> >> W >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Doh mailing list >> d...@ietf.org <mailto:d...@ietf.org> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/doh >> >> >> >> -- >> I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad >> idea in the first place. >> This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later >> expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and >> that pair of pants. >> ---maf >> _______________________________________________ >> hrpc mailing list >> h...@irtf.org <mailto:h...@irtf.org> >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hrpc > > > _______________________________________________ > hrpc mailing list > h...@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hrpc -- Amelia Andersdotter Technical Consultant, Digital Programme ARTICLE19 www.article19.org PGP: 3D5D B6CA B852 B988 055A 6A6F FEF1 C294 B4E8 0B55 _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
