Hi -

A couple of items of history. Back about 1987, Jon Postel and I talked about the original registration of .INT - he was the IANA, I was managing the NIC contract which would be responsible for dealing with registrations under .INT. ( .INT ended up being managed by ISI under an DARPA contract when the DDN PMO wouldn't cover the costs). The topic of the cc TLDs came up then and strangely a bit later when I was at (D)ARPA. The first time was a discussion about .UK vs .GB, the last was about Native American tribes/nations.

Jon was adamant (and I think rightly so) about keeping the IANA out of determinations of "what is a country" and to use the 3166 process for allocation of 2 character TLDs (note I didn't say ccTLDs) and I think that still makes a lot of sense. Given that, I would suggest we say that all of the possible two letter TLDs not yet delegated have been reserved by the IANA on behalf of ISO3166 pending a request to delegate them to an entity identified by ISO3166. I might suggest that ICANN/IANA update RFC1591 to discuss how to deal with "transitionally reserved" TLDs/ISO3166-2 codes (e.g. .SU from the soviet union for example) if they haven't already.

And to answer John's original question - it's probably a bad idea, but, like smoking, it probably won't kill you immediately. I might actually suggest using .EZ which looks like it will never be stood up as a DNS domain given that its registration is for " European OTC <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over-the-counter_%28finance%29> derivatives within International securities identification numbering system <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Securities_Identifying_Number> (ISIN)"

And to go back to Ed's comment. I *wouldn't* move forward with his draft. It's not space that's currently owned by the IETF/IANA/ICANN.

So a big +1 to Mark's comment about using namespaces not delegated to you.

Mike



On 9/29/2016 11:44 AM, David Conrad wrote:
Mark,

On September 28, 2016 at 10:35:40 PM, Mark Andrews (ma...@isc.org <mailto:ma...@isc.org>) wrote:

Things can change. It is ALWAYS a bad idea to use namespace not
delegated to you.

Unless, of course, Ed's draft progresses and the user assigned ISO codes are turned into private use TLDs (similar to RFC 1918 turning 10/8, etc., into private use address space).

The only way the user assigned codes could be delegated would be if:

a) ISO reverses their policy for those codes and assigns them to countries

b) The IETF revises name assignment policy and demands they be delegated

c) The ICANN community revises name assignment policy and allows them to be delegated

I'm quite confident that (c) will never occur -- too many parts of the ICANN community would reject the idea instantaneously and given the new gTLD program, there is simply no reason for the question to even come up. Similarly, I'm reasonably confident the IETF won't demand those labels be delegated -- I can't see a reason why a different solution would be sufficient. Where I don't have as much confidence is in ISO-3166/MA's actions, but that's mostly because I don't know how they work.

Regards,

-drc



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