From:  DNSOP <dnsop-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of Ted Lemon
<mel...@fugue.com>
Date:  Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 2:53 PM
To:  Paul Hoffman <paul.hoff...@vpnc.org>
Cc:  "dnsop@ietf.org" <dnsop@ietf.org>, Ted Lemon <ted.le...@nominum.com>
Subject:  Re: [DNSOP] Alternative Special-Use TLD problem statement draft

So to answer a slightly different question than the one you asked, what I am
proposing is that the working group adopt the tldr document, likely with
changes, rather than adopting the adpkja document, which I think would take
much more work to get into shape.   The entire reason that I started the
tldr document is that I felt that the adpkja document not only didn't
accurately describe the problem, but contained much more text describing
some authors' beliefs about what the solutions should be than text
describing what the problem is.   I also felt that the scope of the adpkja
document was too narrow--it mostly talks about problems with 6761, without
really talking about the greater context of those problems.


‹> Ted,

The recent discussions on the wg mailing list have articulated the tussle
between, on one side the desire for the IETF to foster innovation in the
naming area, and, on the other side, the ability (or not) of the IETF, as an
organization, to deal with the socio-economic aspect such as IPR, etcŠ tied
to those ³special names². The argument being that there is nothing
fundamental that differentiate the strings associated with "special names"
from those associated with regular DNS TLDs, and, as such both are
potentially subject to those pressures.

Reading section 4.2 and 4.3 of draft-tldr-sutld-ps-00, it would appear you
are in the camp that does believe those ³special names² are immune those
socio-economic pressures and/or the IETF can deal with this. Do I get this
right?
If that is the case, then, it is not that one document is better than the
other, there is a  fundamental difference between the perspectives of the
authors.

It should follow that this is a non technical issue that is much larger than
DNSop wg.  As such, the DNSop wg might want to refrain from adopting one or
the other document until the IETF, as a community, under the leadership of
the IAB, comes to an agreement on that fundamental question. After all, the
interpretation of RFC2860 (ICANN/IETF MoU) is the prerogative of the IAB.

Alain, long time IETF participant, speaking solely as myself.


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