Jelte, don't forget there are ccTLD registries run by third parties for purely economic reasons, some better some worse. And a particular compatriot comes to mind :-)-O
Then there are a number of smaller ccTLDs which are overwhelmed by all of this. Never mind those who only answer their email when they get offered travel funding. And then there is not only the purely technical DNS accuracy but the quality of the Registrant data is often very poor, Whether this is published in the WHOIS or not, this could and should be addressed at the same time. But what really is lacking is not only a BCP that addresses all of this but also an Open Source reference implementation of a quality that is actually usable. If I could auto-generate a report for each of or Registrars that lists all issues we have identified there are some who will try and fix it because they like to do proper work. Some will need a little name and shame. Some I can motivate with our policies which they have contractually bound themselves to. Other ccTLDs might not be able to do that, or might choose not to do that. But unless we have some actual tools this remains an academic exercise. el On 2015-11-12 16:13, Jelte Jansen wrote: > On 11/12/2015 01:30 AM, Tim Wicinski wrote: >> >> (as chair) >> >> I was the one who told Mark I liked the document but we needed to >> do less badgering of TLDs (my words, not his) and more on giving >> them advice on the best practices. >> > > +1 > > I'd like to add that they may be badgered just as hard from the > other side not to do too much in this regard; i.e. registrars > telling them "Don't tell me how to do my work, even if you think > it's wrong". Sure, BCPs may help, but we stopped doing > pre-delegation checks for a reason. > > As Antoin and others have already mentioned, we still do checks, > and we inform on a number (but not all) of them. One thing we > found (at least that has been my conclusion) is that 'they are > doing it better' works *much* better than 'you are doing it > wrong'. > > Removing delegations because of a lame delegation is highly likely > to be out of the question. > > Jelte [...] -- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar) e...@lisse.na / * | Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell) PO Box 8421 \ / Bachbrecht, Namibia ;____/ _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop