On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 12:22:05PM +0000, Lawrence Conroy wrote: > ISTM that the IETF isn't in a position to force its suggestions through > the 'industry'.
Who said anything about "forcing", I thought this was intended to be a BCP. As for whether the checks are done by registries or registrars: ideally both! * Registrars check their customer domains and notify the customer. * Registries checks all domains to apply soft pressure on registrars with whose domains are notably more broken than average. For example, I've worked directly with some .nl registrars, and indirectly with SIDN to resolve the highest visibility problems wrt. DANE TLSA and .nl domains. Small pockets of problems remain, and SIDN are doing proactive monitoring. So in the last year or so, we've seen DNS server upgrades that resolved issues at transip.nl, hostnet.nl, hosting2go.nl, metaregistrar.nl and sonexo.nl. Still waiting on axc.nl, but IIRC they're working on it. The incidence of broken DNSSEC TLSA lookup in .nl is down by two orders of magnitude over the last year. In the .se case, citynetwork.se fixed their firewall that was dropping TLSA queries, and IIRC I was in touch with someone at at the .se registry to help encourage them to do that. My efforts don't scale, and I believe a sensibly worded BCP would be quite useful. It would explain what's important to remediate and why. I may motivate some proactive TLD operators and their registrars to do the right thing voluntarily. -- Viktor. _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop