On 24 Sep 2015, at 13:42, Ted Lemon wrote: > On Sep 23, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Dave Lawrence <t...@dd.org> wrote: >> Ted Lemon writes: >>> It would be helpful if the authors could explain why the REFUSED >>> response is being used here. >> >> Not to be glib, but because that's what Wilmer originally specified. >> That's thus what got implemented by the existing implementations (and >> there are more than you'd likely imagine, too). > > Thanks, that’s what I expected. My concern is that the document currently > states this unapologetically, so a reader who does not know the context might > be tempted to implement it that way. The way the document is written at > present is as if it is a protocol specification intended to be implemented. > There is no applicability statement that says something like "there are a lot > of problems with this version of the spec, and you should wait and implement > version 2 if you don’t already have an implementation or need to interoperate > with version 1." I think the document needs to have some clear language > restricting its applicability, and I also think that in cases where what was > done in version 1 was obviously wrong, the document should say so.
I agree, when I last read this I had the IESG Note in my head (and I already knew that this was just documenting existing deployments). Looking again, I suggest that the IESG Note be moved to the main text and not be removed prior to publication. John > > I think it’s actually harmful to publish the version 1 document as an RFC > without the version 2 document, to be honest. I get why you want to do it > in two steps, but from where I’m sitting this feels like an unfortunate > decision if the first step is to publish something that looks like a > perfectly valid spec and then the spec that does things the right way comes > possibly much later on. > > _______________________________________________ > DNSOP mailing list > DNSOP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop John Dickinson http://sinodun.com Sinodun Internet Technologies Ltd. Magdalen Centre Oxford Science Park Robert Robinson Avenue Oxford OX4 4GA U.K.
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