There is a current document that would need to be updated: RFC 6944:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6944

The RFC needs to be updated to include the new elliptic curve algorithms. It would also be a good place to move other algorithms to other categories.

Scott

On 10 Sep 2015, at 10:02, Ondřej Surý wrote:

Viktor,

while I wholeheartedly agree that we might deprecate DSA, and perhaps issue a recommendation on what is the minimum recommended algorithm, this is really out-of-the-scope for the cfrg curves draft. I would be happy to help (co-author, review, etc..) the deprecation I-D/RFC, I think we should not mix these together, since it will be much harder to agree upon the deprecated algorithm list.

Cheers,
Ondrej
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Viktor Dukhovni" <ietf-d...@dukhovni.org>
To: dnsop@ietf.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 9:29:46 PM
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sury-dnskey-ed25519-03.txt

On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 08:12:41PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:

Yes, we are waiting exactly for the cfrg to finish the signature schemas. But the rest can get a review early. f.e. it's evident now, we have to add more material about motivation to add new curves into the draft(s).

Great.  My other concern is that at this point, perhaps every time
we consider adding more algorithm ids to DNSSEC we should consider
retiring some old ones, we are starting to have too many:

Id    Description           Mnemonic        ZSIG TSIG   Reference
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 RSA/MD5 (deprecated) RSAMD5 N Y [RFC3110][RFC4034]
2    Diffie-Hellman        DH                 N    Y   [RFC2539]
4    Reserved                                          [RFC6725]
9    Reserved                                          [RFC6725]
11   Reserved                                          [RFC6725]
--
3    DSA/SHA1              DSA                Y    Y   [RFC3755]
5 RSA/SHA-1 RSASHA1 Y Y [RFC3110][RFC4034]
6    DSA-NSEC3-SHA1        DSA-NSEC3-SHA1     Y    Y   [RFC5155]
7    RSASHA1-NSEC3-SHA1    RSASHA1-NSEC3-SHA1 Y    Y   [RFC5155]
8    RSA/SHA-256           RSASHA256          Y    *   [RFC5702]
10   RSA/SHA-512           RSASHA512          Y    *   [RFC5702]
12   GOST R 34.10-2001     ECC-GOST           Y    *   [RFC5933]
13   P-256 with SHA-256    ECDSAP256SHA256    Y    *   [RFC6605]
14   P-384 with SHA-384    ECDSAP384SHA384    Y    *   [RFC6605]

I'd like to propose that with the introduction of the CFRG algorithms,
we should deprecate:

3    DSA/SHA1              DSA                Y    Y   [RFC3755]
6    DSA-NSEC3-SHA1        DSA-NSEC3-SHA1     Y    Y   [RFC5155]
12   GOST R 34.10-2001     ECC-GOST           Y    *   [RFC5933]

and as ideally also announce a sunset date for:

5 RSA/SHA-1 RSASHA1 Y Y [RFC3110][RFC4034]
7    RSASHA1-NSEC3-SHA1    RSASHA1-NSEC3-SHA1 Y    Y   [RFC5155]

though of course these are rather widely used at present, it is
time to start encouraging folks to move on.

Once the CFRG algorithms are done, I would also publish an updated
list of MTI algorithms for DNSSEC that would consist of:

8, 12 and both of the CFRG algorithms.

The more secure of the two CFRG algorithms should be supported by
clients, but should not yet be used by servers, concerns about
post-QC crypto don't really apply to short-term signatures, we can
switch to the Goldilocks curve if/when necessary, provided the
client support is there all along.

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        Viktor.

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