I think you're missing a distinction I was making, however, which is that we 
should not be poaching on turf already handed to someone else.  Managing 
top-level domains that are intended to be looked up in the DNS -- even if 
people expect them to be part of a "local root" or otherwise not actually part 
of the DNS -- is, I increasingly think, part of ICANN's remit.  Managing things 
that are domain names that are by definition _never_ to be looked up in the DNS 
is different, and we have a legitimate claim (I'm arguing.  I should note I'm 
not sure I completely buy the distinction I'm making, but I want to keep 
testing it).  

The distinction I'm making suggests why corp and onion seem different.  They 
are, in this fundamental resolution nature.  

A

-- 
Andrew Sullivan 
Please excuse my clumbsy thums. 

> On May 12, 2015, at 19:16, Ted Lemon <ted.le...@nominum.com> wrote:
> 
>> On May 12, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Andrew Sullivan <a...@anvilwalrusden.com> 
>> wrote:
>> This is a bizarre argument.  You don't get to kind-of delegate policy
>> authority this way.  Authority was delegated, and if we don't like the
>> outcome we can go pound sand.
> 
> I think the IETF can develop a position on whether we think what ICANN is 
> doing with the authority we delegated to them makes sense. You are right that 
> we may not be able to do anything about this position other than state it, 
> but we could state it, if we chose. But that wasn't the argument I was making.
> 
> The argument I was making is that it's pretty clear that what ICANN has done 
> is bad for the Internet, and that we should not decide whether or not to 
> allocate special use names, or how many to allocate, based on an attitude of 
> deferring to ICANN's greater wisdom on the topic.
> 
> If in fact we have any basis for claiming to be able to allocate special use 
> names, then we should just do that, not without taking care to avoid creating 
> unnecessary conflicts, but not with trepidation either.   If we don't, then 
> we should figure that out, and figure out what to do about it, because this 
> whole conversation appears to be based on the premise that we can in fact 
> allocate special use names.

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