On 4/3/15, 15:21, "Casey Deccio" <ca...@deccio.net> wrote:
>   However, independent of the location of the zone cut, the text is still
> confusing (to me), as it implies that there are multiple nodes and names.

Well, that case:

> 
> Here is an alternative wording, which adds the context of RRsets:
> ----
> Delegation Point: Term used to describe a delegated name when used in
> conjunction with RRsets on the parental side of the zone cut.  For example,
> the delegation NS RRs for "foo.example" are found at the delegation point,
> which is in the "example" zone (as opposed to the authoritative NS RRs at the
> zone apex of the "foo.example" zone).  See also zone apex.
> 
> Zone Apex: Term used to describe the a delegated name when used in conjunction
> with RRsets on the child side of a zone cut.  See also delegation point.
> ----

I'll start with, I've started to use cut point instead of delegation point,
so to me there's a cut and an apex at a delegation.  I'm not saying this to
start a revolution or new terminology, but in recognition of the confusion.

Delegation Point: the collection of records at a name which owns an NS set
that are visible in the parent zone.
Zone apex: the collection of records at a name which owns an NS set that are
visible in the child zone.

"Visible" is a nod to "occluded" records, those records that are subject to
appear in an AXFR but are below a zone cut.  (Section 3.5 of RFC 5936.)

Casey, now, see what you've started.  And on a Friday, no less!  Having to
dig up that reference to "occluded".

So, back to the proposed definitions:

Delegation Point: Term used to name the set of record sets owned by a name
that also owns an NS set that belong in the parent zone.  (The term "belong"
needs fixing.)

Zone apex: Term used to name the set of record sets owned by a name that
also owns an NS set that belong in the child zone.



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