On 11/11/14 9:30 PM, "Warren Kumari" <war...@kumari.net> wrote:
>On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Lee Howard <l...@asgard.org> wrote: >> Many SSH servers (by default) reject connections from IP addresses >>without >> PTRs. >> This is stupid. >> > >dun't matter if it is stupid or not. dun't really matter if requiring >PTRs for mail servers, VPN servers, etc is stupid or not. What matters >is that "Many SSH servers (by default) reject connections from IP >addresses without PTRs" and that many mail servers require PTRs and >that fluffy bunny servers require PTRs. You, me, everybody in DNSOP >(or the entire IETF for that matter) deciding it is stupid doesn't >change what Billy Joe's mailserver does. You've combined issues. Mail servers rejecting mail from unmanaged networks (such as houses) is a feature. If an ISP doesn't publish PTRs, mail server operators are unaffected. > >> I heard applause during the WG meeting in response to these statements; >> sounded like consensus to me. I said I would check that consensus on >>list. > >I think that there is consensus that it is stupid. There is also >consensus that using a fork to get the stuck toast out of the toaster >is a bad idea -- however.... Because it is stupid, toaster designers do not make sure that toasters are fork-accessible. We are not obligated to facilitate other people's stupidity. Lee > >W > >> >> Thanks, >> Lee >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> DNSOP mailing list >> DNSOP@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop > > > >-- >I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad >idea in the first place. >This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing >regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair >of pants. > ---maf > >_______________________________________________ >DNSOP mailing list >DNSOP@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop > _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
