As for protocol police, we need them. Deploying anything new is getting to be extremely difficult given the levels of non compliance with existing RFC. Protocols only work when both side are following the protocol.
As Tim hasn't sent out a updated agenda I will draw your attention to: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-andrews-dns-no-response-issue-04 http://users.isc.org/~marka/ts.html http://users.isc.org/~marka/alexa-report.html http://users.isc.org/~marka/au-report.html http://users.isc.org/~marka/bottom-report.html http://users.isc.org/~marka/gov-report.html http://users.isc.org/~marka/tld-report.html Which covers EDNS compliance which I will be discussing at HI. Getting rid of broken software on authoritative servers is something we can achieve. Mark In message <cahw9_ijivj18wq8hcbytd3ebh4vxr1lfw0aqcskocv-_tpa...@mail.gmail.com>, Warren Kumari writes: > --===============2813703441700708651== > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7ba9751882c1e50506bdb90a > > --047d7ba9751882c1e50506bdb90a > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Friday, October 31, 2014, Andrew Sullivan <a...@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 05:28:40PM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > > something that is "against the rules laid out by the standard". > > > > "Nonconforming", then. > > > Nonconformant or noncompliant ((as previously suggested) does not comply > with the standard) > > > > > I have to agree that "illegal" is wrong. > > There are no DNS cops, despite what many people would like. > > > > > Oh, I thought that was Mark... :-) > > And I'd happily volunteer if we form a larger force - "he carries a badge, > and a copy of Wireshark -- he's Warren, a member of the elite DNS branch of > the Protocol Police. Sworn to uphold EDNS compliance and seek out broken > delegations wherever they may be..." > > W > > > > > > A > > > > -- > > Andrew Sullivan > > a...@anvilwalrusden.com <javascript:;> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > DNSOP mailing list > > DNSOP@ietf.org <javascript:;> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop > > > > > -- > I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in > the first place. > This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing > regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of > pants. > ---maf > > --047d7ba9751882c1e50506bdb90a > Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <br><br>On Friday, October 31, 2014, Andrew Sullivan <<a href=3D"mailto:= > a...@anvilwalrusden.com">a...@anvilwalrusden.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquot= > e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol= > id;padding-left:1ex">On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 05:28:40PM +0100, Stephane Bor= > tzmeyer wrote:<br> > > something that is "against the rules laid out by the standard&quo= > t;.<br> > <br> > "Nonconforming", then.=C2=A0=C2=A0</blockquote><blockquote class= > =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd= > ing-left:1ex"></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Nonconformant=C2=A0or noncom= > pliant ((as previously suggested)=C2=A0does not comply with the standard)= > =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot= > e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">= > I have to agree that "illegal" is wrong.<br> > There are no DNS cops, despite what many people would like.<br> > <br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Oh, I thought=C2=A0that was=C2=A0Mark.= > ..<span></span> :-)</div><div><br></div><div>And I'd happily volunteer = > if we form a larger force - "he carries a badge, and a copy of Wiresha= > rk -- he's Warren, a member of the elite DNS branch of the Protocol Pol= > ice. Sworn to uphold EDNS compliance and seek out broken delegations wherev= > er they may be..."</div><div><br></div><div>W</div><div><br></div><div= > ><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg= > in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> > A<br> > <br> > --<br> > Andrew Sullivan<br> > <a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'ajs@anvi= > lwalrusden.com')">a...@anvilwalrusden.com</a><br> > <br> > _______________________________________________<br> > DNSOP mailing list<br> > <a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'DNSOP@ie= > tf.org')">DNSOP@ietf.org</a><br> > <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop"; target=3D"_blank">h= > ttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop</a><br> > </blockquote><br><br>-- <br>I don't think the execution is relevant whe= > n it was obviously a bad idea in the first place.<br>This is like putting r= > abid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen th= > ose particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants.<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0---maf= > <br> > > --047d7ba9751882c1e50506bdb90a-- > > > --===============2813703441700708651== > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > _______________________________________________ > DNSOP mailing list > DNSOP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop > > --===============2813703441700708651==-- > -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
