On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 01:17:52PM -0800, Joe Abley wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> 
> On 2012-02-06, at 14:12, <bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com> 
> <bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks to Warren, Ed, John D., David C. and Kato-san for their 
> > comments/corrections.
> > Any more? 
> 
> I see you added some text based on our conversation in sunny Christchurch, 
> thanks for that. As promised, here's a summary of that conversation for the 
> list(s).
> 
[elided]
> 
> In summary, I think the document should be substantially reorganised. This 
> makes it difficult to provide a meaningful line-by-line critique. However, I 
> am very happy to put my money where my mouth is and copy-edit/reorganise 
> along the lines I'm thinking if that seems like a useful way to explain 
> myself. I don't think the -04 draft, even with copy-editing, is useful to 
> publish as-is.
> 
> 
> Joe

        I had a similar conversation with Terry (check the thread archives).
        Effectively what you propose is a "clean slate" instead of building
        off existing work and actual practice.  I think that is a fabulou
        idea but it has a couple of caveats:

        ) it will take considerable time to reach consensus within the operator 
community,
          let alone the large community.
        ) it will not reflect actual practice but an ideal to be achieved.

        I think that starting work on such a draft is a great idea -BUT- in the 
mean time
        do not let "perfect" get in the way of "good enough". I beleive Terry 
agreed with 
        that line of thnking.   Of the existing Operators, A, B, E, G, H, J, L, 
and M have 
        made positive comments and worked on  upgrading this base text provided 
by one of 
        the Operators.  Is your opinion / argument strong enough to stop work 
on this draft?

        That said, I'd love to see a revamped version, if youhave the time to 
copy-edit/reorgnize
        the document.


/bill
        
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