I'm not really an active member of the WG, so I certainly wouldn't say that
my position has much of an affect on consensus, but I'm unconvinced
by the argument offered below.

Sure, the ZSK is at greater risk because operators have access to it, but
so what? If an operator actually steals the key (or, say, is fired), you
change the key then. However, given that you allow the operator to sign
stuff with the key as long as he's employed, I don't see how repeatedly
changing it during that period offers much value at all.

-Ekr


On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Olaf Kolkman <o...@nlnetlabs.nl> wrote:
>
>
> As a reminder: http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/svn/rfc4641bis/trunk/open-issues/ has 
> the open issues listed and a per issue highlight of their history.
>
> This issue is captured in
> http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/svn/rfc4641bis/trunk/open-issues/ZSK-roll-frequency
> current content of that page is replicated below.
>
> I welcome substantive discussion on-list while I'd be happy to receive 
> editorial comments off-list
>
> If the chair believes the current text captures consensus I will move this 
> issue to the closed issues list.
>
> --Olaf
>
>
> $Id: ZSK-roll-frequency 31 2009-10-07 08:19:53Z olaf $
> 2008090101
>   ZSK-roll-frequency
>   EKR/ Paul Hoffman
>   Added: 7 Oct 2009
>
> See:
> http://www.educatedguesswork.org/2009/10/on_the_security_of_zsk_rollove.html
>
>
> Rfc4641 argues for frequent ZSK rollovers, the argument therein is
> based on operational arguments that are (implicitly) based on operator
> acces to private keys and/or the timeline in which changes in which
> the (zone) operator may need to be replaced.
>
> EKRs argument is based on cryptographic strength and argues another view.
>
> The current considerations need to be made more explicit.
>
> Resolution:
>
>
> Added the following paragraph to section 3.3:
>
>        <t>
>          The motivation for having the ZSK's effectivity period
>          shorter than the KSK's effectivity period is rooted in the
>          operational consideration that it is more likely that
>          operators have more frequent read access to the ZSK than to
>          the KSK. If ZSK's are maintained on cryptographic Hardware
>          Security Modules (HSM) than the motivation to have different
>          key effectivity periods is weakend.
>
>        </t>
>
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