On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:24:41AM -0400, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:20:33AM -0400, Thierry Moreau wrote:
> > 
> > OK, 0.02 worth of unsupported personal attacks against me. Out of topic. 
> > Counter-productive. Not worth replying.
> 
> Perhaps the next time you think something is not worth replying to,
> you could follow that conclusion with what would seem to be the
> obvious non-action?
> 
> A
> 
> -- 
> Andrew Sullivan                         204-4141 Yonge Street

        actually, the key point here is that apparently a number of 
        (good) people are avoiding the IETF process because they
        believe their ideas, intended to be partof open standards
        development, are being patented by others and then used as 
        leverage to force particular outcomes.  

        Such beliefs are corrosive and distructive to the IETF process
        and it is not clear how such concerns could be avoided in
        todays environment.  

        So work is being done outside the IETF, where there is trust.

--bill

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