Ted Lemon wrote:

On Jun 6, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Thierry Moreau wrote:

Blindly following the above ideology will result in less and less  RFCs,
hence less network standardization and/or standardization made by
entities other than the IETF.


Actually, what would result in fewer and fewer RFCs would be people patenting the technology and asking for royalties on what they have patented. It's true that there would be fewer and fewer RFCs if more and more people did this, but that would be an economic result of the activity of those people. Calling the functioning of an ecosystem "ideology" is just a way of pretending that something you are doing to destroy and replace that ecosystem is "fair."

It's possible that if you succeed in getting enough patents, some other gruesome ecosystem will arise to replace the ecosystem that has grown around the IETF. You could say that someone who would prefer not to have to attempt to survive in such a polluted ecosystem is an ideologue, but in so saying you are making yourself into an ideologue as well. And then the question becomes, which ideology do we prefer?

Like it or not, the current patent regime is somehow rooted in the US constitution, well-entrenched national laws, and treaties both for the fundamental patent system characteristics (e.g. WTO), and for the facilitation and harmonization of patent applications in multiple countries (e.g. PCT).

Indeed, there is an ideology behind the current patent regime. You may feel it's "gruesome". See the conclusion of a committee chaired by late Georges Washington at http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/constitution_transcript.html#1.8.8 Unfortunetely for the opposing view, the comment period for this committee is closed.

So, it's neither a matter with me, nor with a new definition of "fair" that would apply to a specification merely because it is published as an IETF RFC. These conflicting views has been discussed at length in many fields of human activites. Yet the patent regime is still up and running.

So using the term "ideology" to describe a person's position that disagrees with yours, while perhaps true, adds nothing to the conversation.

It is in its fight against the well rooted foundations of the patent system that the IPR unemcumbrance ideology is counter-productive in the present instance.

By the way, does IETF dnsop need to discuss a consensus-based DNSSEC root priming specification? I whish an open discussion is possible.

Regards,

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