In addition to said by Stephane Google made the technical solution that works for people and attracts them. Till now DNS4EU looks like an administrative initiative without a clearly defined perspective. If someone would make a technical solution in the EU and would offer it, and the solution would be solid and resilient there will not be a necessity in any initiatives.
> On 17 Dec 2021, at 11:21, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzme...@nic.fr> wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 01:43:12AM +0000, > Geoff Huston <g...@apnic.net> wrote > a message of 67 lines which said: > >> The problem for everyone else is the incursion of a US private >> entity into the heart of the Internet’s name resolution >> infrastructure. >> >> Over the past 16 months the number of EU users who pass queries to >> Google’s Public DNS has risen from a little over 15% to touching 30% >> >> If you are working in the EC and you see yet another piece of the >> Internet’s digital communications infrastructure being aggregated >> and centralized by a gigantic US entity, then wouldn’t you be a >> little bit disconcerted? > > I think we all understand the starting point, and the concern of the > EC. The problem is that they apparently don't provide a detailed > problem analysis. Observing that the market share of US public > resolvers increases is one thing, understanding why is another thing, > and which is very important to solve the problem. Was there are survey > about the reasons for this switch to these resolvers? > > For instance, an important reason (may be the main one) why users use > US public resolvers is because they don't implement censorship > (SciHub, football events, music and film sharing). The DNS4EU project > is silent about whether or not they will have censorship (a > problematic silence!) but I note that they claim DNS4EU is a lying > resolver. Even if lies are initially limited to malware and C&C, I > have no doubt that the IP people (IP not being the Internet Protocol) > will, as soon as they discover DNS4EU, ask for censorship and they are > a very powerful lobby. If DNS4EU yields to their requirments, then the > project is doomed. > >> So I think this is not really about the quality of the alternatives >> available for European users (and ISPs) in the DNS resolution >> market. > > I don't think that many people switched to Google or Cloudflare > because of DNSSEC validation (unfortunately) but may be they switched > because of technical malfunctions. Each time there is a big breakage > of the resolver of an IAP, everybody on the social networks advise > "use 8.8.8.8" and people don't come back after that. So, even if > DNSSEC doesn't matter, robustness does. > >> to try to stimulate local initiatives to improve the capability of >> DNS resolution infrastructure in the region. > > Another challenge for DNS4EU will be to provide a quality service: > managing a big public DNS resolver is not an easy task and I don't > think that there are many european companies which I would trust for > that. (At least among the companies that typically win the public > calls for tender.) > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/dns-wg -- Taras Heichenko ta...@academ.kiev.ua -- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/dns-wg
