One note about my advice to OSI on December 1, 2018: That was, IIRC, my earliest attempt to advise fellow GNU Mailman listadmins about how to contend with the DMARC problem. A probably-mistaken small datum in what I said to OSI now sticks out:
> Yahoo and Gmail are examples of sending domains with strict DMARC > policies. Correction: Either that was never true about GMail, or it was at the time of writing, but is no longer. (More likely the former.) Today: ~ $ dig -t txt _dmarc.gmail.com. +short "v=DMARC1\; p=none\; sp=quarantine\; rua=mailto:mailauth-repo...@google.com"; Substring 'p=none' means _not_ an aggressive/strict DMARC policy[1] -- unlike, say, yahoo.com's published policy: :r! dig -t txt _dmarc.yahoo.com. +short "v=DMARC1\; p=reject\; pct=100\; rua=mailto:dmarc_y_...@yahoo.com\;"; What _is_ true of GMail is that it enforces upon receipt at GMail all published DMARC policies of SMTP-sending domains (as relatively few SMTP-receiving domains yet do). Ergo, often one of the places mailing lists first notice delivery problems owing to aggressive DMARC policies is among subscribers receiving their subscription mail on GMail, who suddenly aren't getting some mailing list traffic, report their subscriptions disabled on account of mysteriously high 'bounce scores' or get mysteriously unsubscribed (for the same reason). Back when I was advising OSI, I probably confused the issues of GMail's strong application of _other_ domains' DMARC policies with its lack of an aggressive policy published for outbound gmail.com mail. What's linuxmafia.com's published policy, you might ask: :r! dig -t txt _dmarc.linuxmafia.com. +short "DMARC: tragically misdesigned since 2012. Check our SPF RR, instead." [1] gmail.com's 'sp=quarantine' in the DMARC TXT RR is a policy for any/all subdomains, one of innumerable baroque features that'll eat your evening if you start studying the hideous thing. -- Cheers, "Maybe the law ain’t perfect, but it’s the only Rick Moen one we got, and without it we got nuthin'." r...@linuxmafia.com -- U.S. Deputy Marshal Bass Reeves, circa 1875 McQ! (4x80) _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
