On 06/21/2017 12:12 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2017 20 Jun 12:48 -0500, Joachim Fahrner wrote: > >> I disagree. This should be a task for gnome developers, if they want to be >> compatible with non-systemd systems (FreeBSD, Devuan...). If they don't, >> then forget Gnome. ANY developer outside of the gnome team will ALWAYS be >> behind the actual development, resulting in unstable ports. I would not >> accept such ugly "third party workarounds". > I agree with Jochen. Should the GNOME developers determine that they > would like to reach the largest number of users possible, then they will > patch their code accordingly. Until that time, chasing their taillights > is not a productive endeavor. > > Earlier in the thread Bruce brought up sysD APIs. What are the APIs > that sysD has implemented that are proving irresistible to other > developers. I know there is discussion of logind. As Bruce asserts, > any of these could be implemented independently. That said, we need to > ask ourselves, would the sysD developers "improve" their API and break > backward compatibility? I think if we look at the history of the > projects mentioned in this thread that the answer is a disheartening, > yes, yes they would do so. > > I will reiterate my earlier comment. For those who believe that Devuan > is somehow lacking without GNOME et. al., Debian is a short download > away. I say that not with malice or condescension, but with sincerity > that your experience will be better with Debian as the Debian developers > have committed the project to support GNOME in full. Devuan has chosen > another path. Please respect that. > > - Nate To be honest, I already sad this once, but, yea gnome is not needed that badly nor is kde for that matter. mhm
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