On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 09:12:39 -0500 Nate Bargmann <n...@n0nb.us> wrote:
> GNOME3 developers seem to have a philosophy unlike that of any other > group of developers in the Linux/FOSS ecosystem. The first clue I had > was watching Linux conference videos and some > GNOME/Freedesktop.org/Red Hat developer would open a Macbook and then > proceed to start a VM to show all the wonderful things they were > making for "Linux". My immediate question was, if it's so wonderful, > why aren't you using it? > > Then there is the abomination GTK3 has become. I guess this makes > sense in light that GNOME developers are maintaining it and seem to > have hinted that its use should be exclusively for GNOME. Fine. > Unfortunately, many projects that were based on GTK2 now face either > moving to GTK3 and its poor UI or moving to another toolkit or simply > ending development. The update of Firefox from 45 esr to 52 esr shows > just what a backwards leap GTK3 is. Suddenly dragging a small icon to > another tab results in the icon appearing about 10X normal size. This > is happening in Devuan and Salix so it's not a distribution or > installation specific issue. > > A few years ago I took over maintenance of a handy application of > interest to radio amateurs. It had been dropped from Debian due to a > compile failure with a newer version of GTK2. The fix was fairly > trivial even for a GTK novice such as myself and the app is in Jessie. > For how long, I don't know as GTK2 will undoubtedly be deprecated in > some future release which leaves me wondering which way to go as I > don't think GTK3 is a worthwhile path to follow. > > As I see it, GNOME/Freedesktop.org/Red Hat/etc. are moving toward an > Android model where everything else is all but officially excluded > except for apps written specifically for their environment. There is > nothing "universal" about their plans and for Debian to chase their > taillights means that Debian should drop "universal" from any > description of their distribution, IMHO. I think it would be wise for > Devuan not to expend any resources also chasing the GNOME, etc. cabal > and let them go their way. For those who want Devuan with GNOME, > point them to Debian and bid them a good day. Other distributions > are doing just fine without SD/GNOME. I think we can as well. > > - Nate Somebody had to say it. Opensourcily incorrect, but the stone truth, and Nate, you said it well. SteveT Steve Litt June 2017 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
