On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 02:44:04PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > > 1) It is clear, by reading this list that part of us are mostly > concerned with servers. > > 2) I also read that there are people who want to truely own their > desktop. Some call them sentimentalists, but they are the people from and > for wich free software arised. > > To summarize, I see two populations in the audience of Devuan, with > slightly different motivations (I find myself in both): > 1) Servers' admins, who have professionnal concerns about security > and productivity and don't necessary care of the desktop, > 2) DIY (and FIY ;-) ) addicts who want whole control on their > desktop.
I suppose I fit in #2; I've used Linux since 2006, which is by now over a third of my life, with my first Linux system being a secondhand Thinkpad running Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake. Getting that to work nicely in 64 megabytes of RAM took a bit of work, but it paid off: it ran more nicely than the DEs I've tried on my current netbook. Since that point, I've built an LFS-ish system with an alternate libc. I can knock out a sysv-style init script (apart from the LSB headers) in a matter of minutes, without looking at the documentation. Yes, I know C well enough to write smallish tools, and if I wanted to I could probably get an overview of how systemd works internally-- after spending several weeks reading through it. ;) But shell scripts can be written well, and writing a shell script to solve a problem beats writing a custom config to handle how one tool does it, and then not being able to apply that to another platform... or an older version of the same distro. And so I would rather use something that *expects* shell scripts than something that tolerates them for "backwards compatability". And I'm certainly not interested in using a custom config because RedHat's employees can't understand how to write fast shell scripts. Why should I expect them to write efficient and safe C if they can't manage efficient and safe sh? "The price of reliability is the pursuit of the utmost simplicity." Thanks, Isaac Dunham _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
