----- Original Message ----- > From: "Didier Kryn" <k...@in2p3.fr>
> Considering Devuan is a major lifeboat of free Linux-based OS, I'm > anxious about its destiny and therefore trying to figure out who is > onboard, I mean the audience. For me, the line between desktop and server is very blurred. I use Debian in a home environment for myself and family members. I am responsible for the maintenance of 11 Debian machines. LXDE is the desktop of choice for most, since Gnome 3 was introduced on Wheezy and the long-term existence of Gnome Classic (or Gnome Fallback) is questionable. Myself, I use Fluxbox. Some of my machines are CLI only. Security is a top priority. I also appreciate the large number of packages that Debian provides. I followed the systemd debates carefully on debian-user and debian-devel. I now am of the opinion that a large number of Debian developers are not paranoid enough to be my OS provider. High-value software to me, in no particular order, includes: Libreoffice Firefox LXDE [2] Fluxbox Openbox Ardour Jack easytag flac pcmanfm xterm xcalc VLC mplayer MythTV (from deb-multimedia.org) Handbrake (from deb-multimedia.org) ssh nfs ldap iptables music player [1] 1: I like Rhythmbox, but the interface is getting worse and the transcode feature seems finicky. I have been mostly using Guayadeque recently. I have need for both a basic player, and for something to transcode flac files to ogg vorbis or mp3 when music is copied to a portable player or usb stick. On Jessie without systemd, it can no longer detect removable media, so its days on my system may be numbered. See my so-far unanswered bug report: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=774871 2: Personally, I don't care if Devuan includes Gnome or not. I think Gnome is so committed to 1) not being optimized for desktops and 2) using systemd, that it would be fair to simply write it off as unusable in Devuan. As long as I have alternatives, I am fine with that. Their vision for their product does not impress me. I think the only reason they have survived the past several years is because they have been the default on so many distros for so long. But today I think there are better choices for default desktop. LXDE and XFCE seem good. But I honestly think most people would be well-served with something basic like Fluxbox or Openbox with a customized startup script which runs wicd, and maybe adding something like fbpanel. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
