On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:31:39PM +0000, Luke Leighton wrote: > > > Again, this will probably be > > almost natural for the first release, since Devuan developers are > > focusing on making the fewest necessary changes, but I am convinced > > that it will soon become unpractical if not impossible, at least if > > alternatives to udev and dbus will be included in Devuan and other > > packages will depend on them. > > ah, that's where i have confidence that you, as a team, will be very > very clever, think this through and come up with something that achieves > exactly and precisely that :)
Unfortunately I'm not actively involved in the development of Devuan :) I am just wandering around in this ML... > > and i think, also, if you do a full and careful audit, you'll find that > there are only a few strategic packages that you need to cut off at > the knees, and beyond that subset of packages the impact will be > zero. I know that you are partially right, right now. I hope that this will be true in two years as well, but I suspect this will not be the case... > > also, i'm going to have a word with the systemd team. i'm going to > advocate to them that they make libsystemd0 be a dynamically-loaded > runtime library, and to provide demonstrations (starting with > pulseaudio) where applications check at *runtime* if libsystemd0 is > available, rather than hard-code the functionality directly in. > > if they don't listen, i'll do it myself. argh. :) Good luck then :) They have not listened an entire community telling them that all this crap was not necessary, and they have nevertheless managd to push it in 95% of the distributions in less than two years, under the motto "either you understand that what I propose is *right* or you are just a moron".... HND KatolaZ -- [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net -- http://katolaz.homeunix.net -- ] [ GNU/Linux User:#325780/ICQ UIN: #258332181/GPG key ID 0B5F062F ] [ Fingerprint: 8E59 D6AA 445E FDB4 A153 3D5A 5F20 B3AE 0B5F 062F ] _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
