On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 5:33 AM, Martijn Dekkers <devuan-li...@dekkers.org.uk> wrote: > Whilst I am still utterly amazed with how awesome Linux servers are, I don't > think we will ever get there with desktops.
Diversity can be a strength, or a weakness. It's good to have diverse desktops (i dislike behemoths like GNOME and KDE), but it hinders adoption of a common ground - which is required if you want to appeal to new users. Yes, there's freedesktop and linux standard base... but where's adoption? If there was a coherent set of standards and distros actually followed them, maybe systemd wouldn't have surfaced (or at least they'd have to find another excuse). OTOH, i feel the GUI should come up as an extra layer, via startx (well not necessarily so). I want to work on the CLI if i want to and to enable the GUI if i want to. If you want your 'puter to go straight to GUI that's fine by me, as long as your "user experience" isn't shoved down my throat, which is what systemd does. The "makng it easier for desktops " excuse is just that, an excuse. Above all there should always be freedom of choice: i don't care if people want to use systemd as long as i have the choice not to. And linux as been well and deployed in large scale everywhere mission critical you name it systems for quite a few decades now without the need for systemd. So yes there should be room for improvement and development, but not at the expense of trampling on others. Put your GUI desktop DE things on steroids, i don't care, as long at it stays in the desktop layer. Yeah, guess i rambled. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng