On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 12:23 -0700, shabda wrote:
> [Trying not be trollish, but the subject might be so. My apologies in
> advance.]
> 
> I run a small Django development firm ( www.uswaretech.com ), and a
> lot of clients we go after need to be convinced on why they should
> choose Django. What is your experience in this? Specifically am I
> looking for is,
> 
> 1. Why choose Django over J2EE
> 2. Why choose Django over RoR
> 3. Why choose Django over PHP

The answer to all of these isn't necessarily to do it, for a customer.
It depends on what resources they have available. There are plenty of
cases where Ruby on Rails is a better choice for an organisation than
Django simply because they have Ruby developers available.

Also, remember that none of these are an either/or proposition. All can
work together (indeed Django on Jython inside Tomcat, or similar, is
going to be a huge thing, I suspect). As a consultant both as an
individual and as part of a corporate consulting group, I've found it
better to pitch the value of using Python/Django/whatever and why it
solves the problem for an effective cost or timetable or whatever the
client's particular pressing issue is, rather than saying the others are
worse choices. For things like Java and Ruby, it's going to be a bit
insane to diss the languages, as they simply aren't that bad in the
corporate world.

Even PHP: I mean, Flickr, Wikipedia, Yahoo -- these are some pretty
large sites running on PHP. Another poster's comment about the ability
to hire good talent is valid, but that also counts against Python (and
Ruby). Corporate clients, particularly, become concerned over the
scarcity of available developers.

> 4. What are the five biggest Django sites, (In number of absolute
> pageviews.)

Nobody ever releases accurate information on site information, so
anything you get here will be a guess. "Five biggest" is kind of a bad
number anyway, since your customer won't be any of them and it's
unlikely you're targeting them as your customers (if you're only looking
at the five biggest, you're missing out on the other few thousand).

Better to look at established companies or busy sites using Django,
rather than saying you had to go as far as the top five to find anything
decent.

Regards,
Malcolm


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