Hi folks - let's please keep the discussion focused on *brainstorming
initiatives* we'd like to get funding for. A brainstorm is an avenue to
just share ideas, not one to discuss details on execution or planning. I
want to keep the discussion as clean and focused as possible to let
everyone chime in, specially new folks.
On a separate but important note, I want to echo Joan and Rich, the D&I
committee *won't* take over tasks or work done by TAC (Travel Assistance
Committee) or the Conferences committee. If we come with ideas of launching
an event in a new region or creating funds to bring under represented
groups to our major conferences, we should work with them directly. Not
saying we shouldn't pursue initiatives here, but rather that we should join
forces.
Ok, with this two clarification points, please let's the ideas keep coming.
I'd love to hear from new folks!
On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 12:51, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgr...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 5/23/2019 3:46 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> > I am aware *that* Kevin is looking into an event in Africa at some
> > unspecified time in the future. That he has considered South Africa
> > and/or Ghana. To the best of my knowledge there is no location or plan
> > as of yet.
>
> Agreed. My point for all here is that I am working to align waterfowl
> for the idea of an event in Africa. It won't be out of the blue for
> Rich if/when I can get a proposal to planners to discuss. Getting a
> proposal together has been a lot of very interesting work.
>
> >
> > On 5/23/19 11:55 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> >> For the Africa event, Rich is appraised of my work and status. No
> >> worries
> >> there and I am working hard to get a detailed plan of attack for his
> >> review
> >> and discussion on planners.
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 23, 2019, 11:50 Joan Touzet <woh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2019-05-23 8:19, Awasum Yannick wrote:> 3.) Money to sponsor an
> >>> Apache Con in Africa(even a road show) or some
> >>>> other under represented location. Has there been an Apache Con in
> >>>> Asia or
> >>>> developing parts of the world?
> >>>> I mostly hear about North America and Europe.
> >>>
> >>> With my ASF Director hat on, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not initiate work
> >>> on running any medium or large sized conference in any territory
> >>> without
> >>> first discussing your idea with Rich Bowen and the Conferences
> >>> committee. These are massive undertakings and require team planning and
> >>> careful consideration, not just one person's heroic efforts. The ASF
> >>> only has so much bandwidth to run these in any given year.
> >>>
> >>> Small events ("meetup" sized) already have a new budget line-item that
> >>> I'm working on, and there will be a nice and easy way to run these with
> >>> minimal involvement necessary from the ASF side.
> >>>
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On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 14:25, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 23, 2019, 08:19 Awasum Yannick <awa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > 2.) D&I specific travel assistance (For people who really need it, who
> are
> > under represented).
> > 3.) Money to sponsor an Apache Con in Africa(even a road show) or some
> > other under represented location. Has there been an Apache Con in Asia or
> > developing parts of the world?
> > I mostly hear about North America and Europe.
>
>
> A number of people have responded to these points, and I don't want to beat
> the dead horse, but I want to make the more general point here. D&I should
> not take on tasks that are already covered by other committees. (In this
> case, TAC and Conferences)
>
> This is for practical reasons (we already put money aside for these things)
> but perhaps more importantly for political ones. We don't want to ever give
> the naysayers another reason to say that this group is doing things outside
> our charter. Particularly this early in the game.
>
> I don't want to be overcautious and miss opportunities but I also don't
> want to get involved in pointless debate around peripheral issues. That
> seems to be how these efforts get submarined. Not on the big issues but on
> the bikesheds.
>
