Tldr; I agree with Gris and Sam:

disc...@diversity.apache.org == diversity@apache.org 
d...@diversity.apache.org for getting stuff done
priv...@diversity.apache.org for really personal stuff like discussing trolls

Even though we are not a traditional project with software for the public good 
as a deliverable, we do have to develop our deliverables and so we need a dev@ 
list.

Craig

> On May 21, 2019, at 11:49 AM, Griselda Cuevas <g...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> I agree we are not a software developer program, but we do develop tools
> and other things. In any case, I hear you here.
> 
> I'd continue to support dev@ since it'd be intuitive for folks already in
> the community to go here if they want to get things done.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 10:43, Joan Touzet <woh...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> +1 with Kenn's discuss@diversity. We are not developers, and I worry
>> that dev@diversity.a.o will make us seem too much like a software
>> development project.
>> 
>> -Joan "already too much software dev in my life" Touzet
>> 
>> On 2019-05-20 0:56, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>>> On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 3:31 PM Griselda Cuevas <g...@google.com.invalid
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> 
>>>> My vote is as follow:
>>>> - Mailing lists: +1 to Sam's proposal, i.e. dev@diversity,
>>>> private@diversity
>>>> & discuss@diversity with a redirecting alias for diversity@a.o
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> +1 though I prefer discuss@diversity be the alias and diveristy@a.o be
>> the
>>> primary. Either way is good.
>>> 
>>> Kenn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> - Website: +1
>>>> 
>>>> I'd suggest we put some thoughts on the page design to make it accesible
>>>> and easy to find info, so let's request the creation of the URL and kick
>>>> start a Jira Board to organice building the page. I'll pause this
>>>> discussion here to avoid noise.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, May 17, 2019, 4:42 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>> <aizha...@google.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> +1 on Sam's proposal.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> 
>>>>> *From: *Naomi Slater <n...@tumbolia.org>
>>>>> *Date: *Fri, May 17, 2019 at 1:01 PM
>>>>> *To: * <diversity@apache.org>
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m +1 on your counter proposal, Sam
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri 17. May 2019 at 21:37, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 9:20 AM Naomi Slater <n...@tumbolia.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> in summary, I have three proposed actions:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - create diversity-private@
>>>>>>>> - create diversity-discuss@ or diversity-dev@
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Counter proposal, consider:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> private@diversity
>>>>>>> dev@diversity
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And ask that diversity@ be renamed to discuss@diversity, with
>>>>>>> diversity@ being an alias for that list. The end result will be
>>>>>>> something like infra, which is not a PMC:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?us...@infra.apache.org
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Note the list of mailing lists(*), including a drop down for other
>>>>> lists.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - create https://diversity.apache.org/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> +1 to this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Sam Ruby
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> (*) In case anyone is wondering, devnull is not a real list, it is
>>>>>>> just there for infra testing purposes.
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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