On 4/10/19 5:39 AM, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
> I have a dumb question, please bear with me. Will this survey reveal answers
> to the following questions –
>
> 1. How diverse are the contributors that are not committers yet?
> 2. How diverse are the contributors being nominated for committership?
I cannot think of any way that we could access that data. Nominations
happen on private lists, and are private. The contributors themselves do
not know that they are being considered. We could not survey them while
they were under consideration without telling them that they are under
consideration.
Your suggestion of surveying non-committer Github contributors certainly
has merit, but, having tried to gather that kind of data in the past
(ie, actual contact info for contributors to an open source project,
based on Github names), it's not particularly easy, as even the people
that list their email address on Github (which is not everyone, by a
long shot) consider it pretty spammy to receive surveys.
>> On Apr 10, 2019, at 2:15 AM, Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Here's the last time this was discussed in 2018:
>>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d286be73692809e9fc71e90970b43319b36c4588b17eeb23fecc132b@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E
>>
>> There are some good suggestions on that thread.
>>
>> Best,
>> Myrle
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 12:59 AM Griselda Cuevas <g...@google.com.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks - I'd like to kick start the revamp of the ASF Committer Diversity
>>> Survey. As agreed in the thread "On Meritocracy" sent to the ComDev lists
>>> [1], we want to revamp the survey in order to inform our Diversity and
>>> Inclusion strategy.
>>>
>>> @Sharan - I believe you were the lead on this effort back in 2016, so you
>>> input here would be valuable to help us scope the effort. Here are some
>>> questions to help us do that:
>>> - What's been done to revamp the survey so far? What's the current status?
>>> - What tasks are needed so we revamp the survey?
>>> - What technology was used to apply the survey?
>>> - How does someone gets access to the survey's backend?
>>>
>>> Once we have direction in these areas, I can help organize the timeline and
>>> next steps.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, I'd love to hear ideas on topics/questions/areas that
>>> weren't included in the 2016 edition [2], with the caveat that we won't be
>>> able to add them all since it would result in either a very different
>>> survey which will be hard to use to measure change or a long survey which
>>> people won't take.
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone, looking forward to completing this.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>>
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5b88a314fd28ec3753fd9aa57fdf815fe9f7a64c5f60fb00e2d25bcf@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E
>>> [2]
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ASF+Committer+Diversity+Survey+-+2016
>>>
>
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