On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Brandon Allbery <allber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Evan Pettrey <jepett...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Brandon Allbery <allber...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Evan Pettrey <jepett...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I think perhaps we're being a bit pedantic on the title vs. the role. >>>> If an ED isn't capable of being both a manager and doer then go out and >>>> hire somebody a different title. >>> >>> >>> I think you're missing the point. There are a lot of things that could >>> be done: enough, and large enough, things that hiring one person to do them >>> is insufficient. If you want paid doers, you're looking at hiring a small >>> army --- and paying the associated costs, both monetary and other. >>> >> >> So because we can't afford to do all the things we should do none of >> them? I don't agree with this logic. >> > > I'm not required to accept an assumption you dragged in on your own. Try > pricing the manpower needed for *one* of those projects. Although I suppose > that's dangerous because you'll pick some cheap one and then cite it with > yet another dragged-in assumption that it's representative of all of them. > My experience from the 2 years I recently spent on the board was that many of the projects we had stall could have been successfully completed with a single person on the payroll. I don't see a value in getting into a battle over the specifics as I'm sure that will quickly devolve into a baseless argument saying whether things could or could not be done effectively by somebody on a paid staff. What I will definitely say is that doing something is going to produce better results than doing nothing in this regard. We can continue down the path of saying, "we need more volunteers, etc" that everybody has been saying for the past decade but unless you're volunteering to commit 40 hours of your own each week (or you will go out and personally recruit 10 people who will commit 4 hours per week) then I don't see how your method is going to be more effective. In any case, it is probably best we just agree to disagree on this one (I say after I've made my point, go ahead and reply as it's only fair you get to make the final point). > > -- > brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine > associates > allber...@gmail.com > ballb...@sinenomine.net > unix, openafs, kerberos, infrastructure, xmonad > http://sinenomine.net >
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