Hi Bijendra,
I, too, am confused.
So let's try to understand what you are doing here!
On 10/10/2013 10:39 AM, Bijendra Singh wrote:
Well it is a project I'm working on.
I am trying to receive an AM signal from HF radio
Yes, so receiving amplitude modulated audio on a carrier somewhere between 3MHz 
and 30Mhz (==HF)
which will be provided in the usrp source in my gnu
You want to capture that using a USRP and GNU Radio, I presume.
and will transmit a FM signal as output
Aaaaha! Second chain of operation! You want to simultaneously generate an FM 
signal
in the usrp sink which I'm trying to send it to the VHF radio.
And you want to transmit that using a USRP (the same USRP?) to another Radio 
receiver, that listens on a VHF carrier (30MHz-300MHz) then.
And vice versa.
Huh? Your radio receivers usually can't transmit, so that's confusing
I'm using CNR-900 VHF radio which freq range is 30 to 89.899 MHz and RS-HX 
radio which freq range is 3 to 30 MHz. When I tried the hf2vhf.grc file, it is 
working, but with noise. Same thing will be possible for VHF to Hf, I guess. 
And I'm stuck in this. Any possible remedies??

OOooooh ok... this is military communications, and I was under the impression 
we're talking broadcast Radio stations.
I must try to reunderstand now:
You're trying to set up a relay station, for someone with some kind of HF AM 
tactical radio to communicate with someone with a VHF FM tactical radio, right?
Anyway, Martin is right: Whatever you do, AM will always be noisy because it's 
AM, and unless you use laaarge antennas the HF signal on the USRP will most 
probably be strongly attenuated (1/2 wavelength of 30MHz is 5m...). So your SNR 
gets even worse.

Greetings,
Marcus

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Martin Braun (CEL) <martin.br...@kit.edu 
<mailto:martin.br...@kit.edu>> wrote:

    Hi Bijendra,

    it's not quite clear what your question is.

    A couple of things you might want to consider:

    - AM is per se noisy. A commercial HF receiver would also have much
      better filters than you can achieve with an LFRX-only setup, so expect
      much noise here
    - FM is much better with noise.
    - You're not supposed to rx AM signals with an FM receiver.
    - VHF and HF usually designate (separate) frequency ranges. So when
      talking about 'interoperability' between those, most people will be
      confused. Well, I am.

    MB

    On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:58:06PM +0530, Bijendra Singh wrote:
    > Hello every one,
    >
    > I'm working on a college level project to show interoperability between 
HF and
    > VHF radio using GNU radio.
    >
    > My aims are listed below:
    >
    > 1)   To obtain FM transmitter and receiver waveform in GNU radio as 
flowgraph,
    > so that i can communicate between laptop and VHF radio (In my case I'm 
using
    > radio of the range 30-89.899 MHz)  :- This I have already achieved
    >
    >
    > 2)    To obtain AM transmitter and receiver waveform in GNu radio as 
flowgraph,
    > so that I can communicate between laptop and HF radio (In my case I'm 
using a
    > HF radio of the range 3-30 MHz)    :- I was able to download a SSB 
receiver and
    > it is functional but the noise level is high.
    >
    >
    > 3)   To integrate Fm transmitter with AM receiver, so that one way 
communicaton
    > is possible from HF radio to VHF radio. :- This I have already achieved, 
but
    > with too much of noise and low pitch voice.
    >
    >
    > 4)   To integrate AM transmitter with FM receiver so that one way 
communication
    > is possible from VHF radio to HF radio.  I'm still lackung behind in this.
    >
    >
    > 5)  To integrate both the 3rd and 4rth flowgraphs in a single flowgraph 
to make
    > Hf and VHF radio interoperable from both sides.
    >
    >
    > 6)  My GNU version is 3.6.4.1, I'm using two usrp's 1 for the HF with 
lftx and
    > lfrx daughter boards and the other for VHF with basic trans and basic 
receive
    > daughter cards.Also I'm using dipole antenna.
    >
    >
    > &0 Please guide me. I'm here attaching some .grc file I have downloaded, 
and
    > which are working in my GNU, but noisy( only ssb_rx is noisy and sstx1 is 
not
    > working)
    >






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