On 27/05/14 18:54, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: > Hi Stefano > > Sorry If I distracted the line of argument with the forum vs. ML vs. TJC > thing... > > To directly answer your / David's question: I have been in the ML since pretty > early on, and I have never felt "oh I wish this list was moderated, get me out > of here ...". Indeed I have welcomed the wide range of topics from intensely > technical through to Jolla's take on Open Source.
+1 I don't see the need to police what's said on a devel mailing list. People can simply say "this is OT" if they think it's really not related to 'some aspect of sailfishos development'. > Equally I have never felt "he / she should be summarily booted off the M" > (though I can't exclude the possibility that others may think that in my case > ...). > > The past few days have been very different from the norm, and we should not > make > massive changes based on them alone. My concern was that once the case arises (and IMHO 'doing something' was definitely an option) we can't just make up rules to fit the situation. People need to know in advance both what the guidelines are and what the response will be. > However it is possible that as this community increases, and becomes less of a > small intimate family, then the need for moderation may grow. For subscribers I see moderation as a possible step (after a warning) to enforce civil behaviour. The downside is that assessing any messages is subjective and time-consuming. I think I'd go for a series of escalating short-duration bans: 1d, 2d, 1w, permanent ban (if someone is still ranting after a week long ban then nothing is going to stop them). Resubscription after that would be at the communities discression somehow. I personally don't think this should be just Jolla's call either. Whilst I expect sailors to be involved I can see a time when the community wants to have a rant at Jolla and it would be good for Jolla not to have a majority vote :) Who *does* get that say and how they're chosen I don't know. I certainly see it more as a rare but difficult chore than a power trip though. David PS if anyone suggests we elect a council for this I may just unsubscribe... ;) > Chris > > > > Zitat von "Stefano Mosconi" <stefano.mosc...@jolla.com>: > >> It seems that the original topic was a bit forgotten in favor of the forum >> vs. >> ML vs. TJC (which is a good and intersting topic but no matter what tool we >> use we will have to go back to the main question). >> >> Just to try to steer the boat back on the original journey this the question >> that David was asking at the beginning: >> >> On 22/05/14 17:18, David Greaves wrote: >>> We need to be careful about over-policing discussions but there is such a >>> thing >>> as under-policing too. >>> >>> How would we (community, not Jolla) determine the line? and what measures >>> do we >>> think should be taken? >>> >>> Lorn pointed to this as a useful document: >>> http://www.kde.org/code-of-conduct/ >> >> Stefano >> _______________________________________________ >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org _______________________________________________ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
