On 06/01/15 17:39, Bill Nottingham wrote:

- I shouldn't be searching for gcc, gcc-c++, make, etc. as separate
   promoted to GNOME Software applications; those should be treated as part
   of a development kit that's installed and updated as a unit, any more than
   I should be searching for libgweather or libdrm as part of installing a
   desktop app.

It seems like we could use DevAssistant for this. This would probably mean creating/polishing more toolchain-oriented separately packaged plugins as proposed by Bohuslav and some way to make them more visible as bug filed by Tomas Radej (all in this thread).


- Even searching for -devel packages implies a "target == host" build
   sensibility that is relevant mostly to those developing Fedora, and
   not to most of those developers that I run into on a day-to-day basis
   (and likely not the developers we're targeting.) They're interested
   in using mock along with system libraries for RHEL/CentOS, using
   pip/npm/rubygems, etc.

Indeed. Still, it seems like this boils down to that developers need a way to install packages, not just applications. Also, to be fair I don't really see if we could or should package all conceivable CLI-based tools into DevAssistant plugins, so also here a developer might need to be able to install packages. And large parts of this thread is about how this relates to gnome-software.

Another question is of course how things like python-pip and rubygem fits into the puzzle. But whatever the solution is for this, it's likely not gnome-software, agreed.

Cheers!

--alec


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