Am 05.01.2015 um 19:36 schrieb Miloslav Trmač:
While I think you are right in some cases like cashier, isn't this discussion really about the Fedora Workstation?! Since for this the target user is a developer, can we just agree that in this case the user needs both CLI and GUI apps (although some developers certainly sticks to one of them).The gist is that * Nobody _should_ need to use a terminal: non-developers¹ don’t need it, and developers deserve a better environment. It’s “only” a matter of writing lots of new software. AFAICT Workstation would in some ideal future want to get to this state. (And non-Linux operating systems are getting closer and closer to this ideal over time.) * _Currently_ most Linux developers do need to use a terminal. So there is no right answer, only a trade-off: Make terminal usage discouraged and difficult for current users, and hopefully get better non-terminal environment in the future, or make terminal usage easy and the generally recommended way, and give up hope on the developer UI significantly improving for the future users.
that's a completly wrong black/white viewpoint * make terminal usage *never* discouraged and difficult * hopefully get better non-terminal environment in the future * keep terminal usage easy * do *not* give up hope on the developer UI significantly improving these points can live at the same timeBUT discourage terminal and *hopefully* get better non-terminal environment *in the future* is by all respect pure bullshit because i don't throw away my car now in the hope of get a private aeroplane in the future
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