On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Deepak Bhole <dbh...@redhat.com> wrote:
> * Toshio Kuratomi <a.bad...@gmail.com> [2011-07-23 20:03]: > > On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 02:00:24PM -0700, Douglas Myers–Turnbull wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Just something I wanted to bring to attention: > > > > > > Java 7 is slated for release (after years of hassle and heated debate) > > > on 28 July, 2011. > > > I think this would be an important feature to include for the Fedora > > > 16 release, and the months between Java's release and Fedora 16's 25 > > > October release would allow plenty of time to integrate Java 7. If I'm > > > not mistaken, if Java 7 isn't released this time around, it won't be > > > in Fedora until the Fedora 17 release rolls around, nearly a year (!) > > > after Java 7 is released. > > > > > > I created an unfinished, skeletal feature page here: > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Java7 > > > Unfortunately, I don't have the knowledge to help build it. I'm > > > announcing it here in case whoever maintains Java 6 in Fedora, or > > > someone else, is interested. > > > > > I was planning to do this myself .. glad you started it :) I can take > over the Feature and doing all the work if you're fine with it... > > > The alpha change deadline is a week and three days away so this is very > > likely too late. If you want to try to get an exception to get this in, > you > > need to get the Java SIG excited to do it, get the Feature page finished > > (with estimates of how much time it will take to finish and who will do > the > > work) and put it before FESCo/Feature Wrangler to see if they'll grant an > > exception. > > > > Judging by the state things are in now, I don't know that it looks too > > hopeful unless you get some Java SIG people to commit to working on it. > > > > This is doable by the Alpha deadline. The main holdup for us has been a > lack of OpenJDK TCK for v7. The actual RPM can be written fairly > quickly. We were hopeful that we'd be able to push a more tested initial > version. But given the deadlines, it appears we will have to push > whatever we have right now and modify/fix it as needed when we have the > TCK. > > Personally I would much sooner you wait until the feature deadline has passed and we've branched the release and then push it directly to the new F-17 rawhide so a better impact of what it breaks can be seen. If at that point its all fairly minor only then review and see what it would take to push back into F-16. A rushed effort will only cause chaos right when we're suppose to be tightening and stabilising the release. If java se 7 was going to be in F-16 there should have been RCs in there for some time, the rough date for release has been known for some time and it should be planned. Peter
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