ok folks. 

I don't think anyone is gaining much value from this thread anymore. 

Can we move it on to: 

a) bug reports. If you have found a bug, file it and work it with the
maintainer. 

b) users list. If you are running into a problem with a current fedora
release doing something.

As far as f15 goes: file bugs and get LSB headers/systemd fixed. 
As far as rawhide goes, please convert your services to unit files. 

:)

Thanks, 

kevin

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