On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 8:34 AM Chris Adams <li...@cmadams.net> wrote:

> Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering <mzerq...@0pointer.de> said:
> > The DNS servers in edge routers are awful at supporting
> > either. i.e. the DNS servers you usually get informed about in DHCP
> > leases are typically too crap at supporting either kind of DNSSEC (and
> > that for a reason actually, these devices generally define their own
> > private, local DNS names (e.g. "fritz.box"), which couldn't possibly
> > be validated with DNSSEC, because they are made up and local.)
>
> That might be true if you are just considering residential users with
> cheap gateways as your only use case (but even then, most of those run
> dnsmasq, which has gotten a lot better).  However, there are lots of
> other use cases.
>
> > We
> > intend to implement the "AD" stuff however correctly for this, but
> > this isn't tested much since pretty much noone except for a few DNS
> > devs actually set this, hence there might be issues, which might be
> > what Florian found.
>
> Advertising yourself as a "nameserver" in /etc/resolv.conf means you get
> to handle all the requests, including the ones you didn't think about or
> want to just dismiss as only of interest "a few DNS devs".  That's the
> only standard way for software to find DNS servers to use for any
> purpose.  Returning errors to clients for things you don't care about is
> basically useless, because they have no other way to get that
> information when actual DNS servers aren't in /etc/resolv.conf.
>
> If systemd-resolved is not going to implement a standards-compliant DNS
> server (and not just "we return errors to things we don't care about",
> but actual current DNS standards), then it does not belong in
> /etc/resolv.conf.  Listening on the system bus as an alternative, to
> implment gethostbyname/getaddrinfo/etc., is fine, but don't pretend to
> be an actual DNS server and go in /etc/resolv.conf.
>

I tend to agree.  Right now, a client-side resolving validator works on
Fedora.  This change proposal breaks that.  Could resolved be extended to
pass DNSSEC data through correctly so that client side validation will
continue to work?
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