On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 4:49 PM Miro Hrončok <mhron...@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 14. 11. 19 22:30, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 4:24 PM Miro Hrončok <mhron...@redhat.com> > wrote: > > > >> Easy is subjective. I don't consider this easy. I consider it seriously > >> overcomplicated. The idea that going modular will somehow help with > current > >> problems in modularity is exactly what happened to eclipse. > > > > No, what happened to Eclipse is that the maintainers of maven and ant > > ran ahead without asking for input, created an environment that caused > > problems for Eclipse and Eclipse got backed into a corner. > > > > As for overcomplicated, I think we can simplify it quite a lot, but I > > think I'm doing a poor job of explaining it over email. Perhaps we > > could do a Google Hangout tomorrow and discuss it real-time? > > Sure thing. Please contact me off-list to discuss when to do this. I'm not > entirely sure it can be tomorrow. I would like to have other Python > maintainers > there, especially those who have been involved in RHEL 8 Python > modularization > and Petr Viktorin (the team-lead) is on vacation tomorrow. > After tomorrow, I’m out of the office for two weeks. So I may see if I can brain-dump to Petr and have him meet with you folks. > >> I'm not going to do this. I guess that after the RHEL 8 experience, > neither are > >> the remaining Python maintainers. > > > > Please defer judgement until we've talked out the whole idea. That's all > I ask. > > I will try to do that, but I'm seriously biased here. I try not to be, but > it's > getting harder with every modularity thread on this list. > I understand. It’s been a rough road and it’s easy to get discouraged. I really feel like we are approaching the finish line and shouldn’t give up just yet! Thank you for keeping an open mind. Your help and feedback has been invaluable. > -- > Miro Hrončok > -- > Phone: +420777974800 > IRC: mhroncok > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >
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