On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 10:07 AM, Adam Williamson < adamw...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-06-21 at 09:46 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > Interesting... thanks Adam... but the way I read that is specifically > > tailored to "release criteria", not > > design/implementation guidelines - i.e. to me this says, don't hold up a > > release because someone > > screwed up and didn't conditionalize the process correctly. > > I think you're being a *bit* harsh, here, btw, constantly talking about > how people are "screwing up". Conditionalized services are kind of an > advanced systemd feature and many people probably don't know about them > at all, and as we're discussing here, we *don't* actually have any > requirement that services be conditionalized in this way. I don't think > it's really fair to see this as packagers doing something horribly > wrong and bad. (Also note that it's not at all straightforward to > conditionalize some of these things in a reliable way - it seems > Lennart had to add a new feature to systemd to aid in conditionalizing > the secure boot-related service, and I don't think it'll be > particularly straightforward to find a correct conditionalization for > the rngd case either). It's just a situation we've identified where we > could possibly improve things. > > First of all, I'm not "constantly talking" about how people are "screwing up". I made that comment in one email. Second, if you're going to maintain something, maintain it. If you don't do something properly, or optimally... own it and don't make excuses. Learn to accept constructive criticism instead of parsing someone's statements searching for reasons to feign insult for use as a deflective excuse.
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