Hi,

On 20-06-18 18:33, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
This isn't related to a service, but is throwing out an spurious error message. 
 There is a patch but it hasn't made it's way
yet into the Fedora kernel:

rt_cmos registration error:  rhbz#1568276
Basically an error is being thrown because your system doesn't have battery 
backup.  To their credit, it was quickly identified
and patched.  We now just have to wait for the patch to be applied.

However these:

The mcelog.service message is associated with rhbz#1166978
The dbxtool.service message is associated with rhbz#1508808
The rngd.service message is associated with rhbz#1490632
At least for me are the result of services being enabled by default, that 
should never have been enabled for my
environment.

mcelog:  I am using an AMD processor.  This service only applies to Intel.
dbxtool:  I am not using SecureBoot.  This service only applies to machines 
using SecureBoot.
rngd:  I am not using a machine that has a hardware RNG generator

Again, if we are apparently so concerned about a streamlined user experience, 
why are we
starting processes that aren't needed - and in fact are not appropriate for a 
particular environment,
and then throwing out error messages which are spurious and confusing?

In my case, this caused me to spend hours individually tracking down all these 
error messages
to find out that there is nothing wrong with my environment.  Instead the issue 
is these services
are inappropriately started for EVERYBODY - and in one case have been 
languishing for years.

Last time I checked, Fedora wasn't an Intel only, SecureBoot only, mandatory 
hardware RNG generator
environment.

If we truly are concerned about end user experience - this isn't the way to go 
about it.

Note that any service failing will change things over from the silent boot we 
want to
have to showing details, starting with the:

Starting foo...     [FAILED]

message, so I fully agree with you. I've put looking into the 3 service
bugs you refer to above at the end of my silent boot todo list. I first
want to get al the other bits involved working, but once that is done
making sure false-positive failures like this don't break the experience
definitely is something which we should work on.

Regards,

Hans
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